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Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now

Started this discussion. Last reply by zelma street mission 4 hours ago. 14 Replies

Quaker Universalist Fellowship has just published its August 2019 e-newsletter @ https://tinyurl.com/Mills-GermanQuakers. Here is a brief…Continue

Tags: Nazism, &, Quakers, Illegal aliens, Nationalism

 

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zelma street mission replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"mike, i would be honored to have you share any of my insights- no need for anonymity and i thank you. blessings, deb."
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Mike Shell replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"Friend Deb, I appreciate very much your sharing of this information. May I share it as a comment on the original Quaker Universalist Fellowship blog post at https://universalistfriends.org/weblog/facing-nationalism, as well as on our Facebook Group…"
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zelma street mission replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"perhaps i can help or at least apply this to my community in houston, where a significant portion of our neighborhood lives in reliable and credible fear of being profiled, detained, searched and in some cases arrested, incarcerated and deported-…"
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Kirby Urner replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"Yes Keith, that's what we love about you.  Keep up the good work."
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Keith Saylor replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"Kirby, Thank you for the links. Thank you for considering some of my questions. The experience of inshining of immanent being upon my conscience and consciousness has discovered to me a different way of relating to people which is not of the nature…"
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Kirby Urner replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"G'morning on this First Day Keith. I won't get to all these questions in order and refer readers to my voluminous world-readable corpus for more of my thinking, if curious.  Yes, I refer to Canadians as Americans as I'm simply…"
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Keith Saylor replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"Kirby, thank you for this response. The partial narrative (composite of reflections) you have outlined here is revealing. I appreciate your effort.  Would I misrepresent you if I were to write, According to the geographic and historical…"
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Kirby Urner replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"Hey Keith.  The Americans being rounded up are mostly those not considered citizens of a nation declared to exist circa 1776 and believed in ever since by most landlubbers.  Those doing the rounding up and imprisoning (they're called…"
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Keith Saylor replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"Hello Mike, Thank you for your response. I have been considering it and will continue considering it. You reflect upon people as persecuting other people who are "not like us." Will you give specific examples of the people in this…"
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Keith Saylor replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"Hello Kirby, Would you be more specific on who the "Americans" that are "rounding up" and "imprisoning."  And who are those "Americans" that are being "rounded up" and "imprisoned."…"
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Mike Shell replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"Thanks, Kirby. You speak my mind on this. Blessings, Mike"
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Kirby Urner replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"Americans are rounding up and imprisoning other Americans.  That's the geographical truth.  The "undocumented" part is added by a base "civilization" that has thrived on slavery for generations, not to be confused…"
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Mike Shell replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"Thanks for the question, Keith. Yes, I wrote these words, though they were approved by the other members of the Quaker Universalist Fellowship's steering committee before we published them.  The others reshaped several passages to make…"
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Keith Saylor replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Facing hostile nationalism: Quakers in Nazi Germany and now'
"America is rounding up and imprisoning people labeled as so-called “illegal aliens,” taking children from families and detaining people in crowded, sometimes abusive conditions. Increasingly, the arrested include American-born citizens…"
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About Me
Writer, editor, photographer. Retired prison counselor and librarian. Married to Jim Gleaton under the care of Columbia (SC) Friends Meeting on December 17, 1994. Christocentric-Universalist Friend, deeply informed by Buddhist and Pagan traditions.

Clerk of Jacksonville (FL) Friends Meeting and recording clerk for Southeastern Yearly Meeting executive committee. Editor of Quaker Universalist Conversations, blog of the Quaker Universalist Fellowship.
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Kinship and prejudice: Are migrants kin?

Posted on 7th mo. 31, 2019 at 10:26am 0 Comments

A new post on The Empty Path: Nonaligned faith and practice in the present.

"Our primate hardwiring militates against welcoming migrants. It’s that simple. And that complicated.

"Individual human beings always act out of self-interest.…

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A Review of Edwin L. Battistella's "Sorry About That: The Language of Public Apology"

Posted on 6th mo. 24, 2019 at 10:07am 0 Comments

 Originally published on the blog of Quaker Universalist Fellowship.

Reviewed by Larry D. Spears.

Sorry About That: The Language of Public Apology, by Edwin L. Battistella (Oxford…

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Global Meeting for Worship – Live online Quaker worship

Posted on 2nd mo. 21, 2019 at 11:00am 0 Comments

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Curing and healing

Posted on 12th mo. 3, 2018 at 12:30pm 0 Comments

Originally published on The Empty Path: Nonaligned faith and practice in the present


American culture has been fixated from the start on two principles inherited from the 17th century English society that established the colonies: the mandate to cure physical, social, and moral ills, and the primacy of ownership.

Whether Puritan, Catholic, or…

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At 8:11am on 5th mo. 14, 2015, Forrest Curo said…

Yeah, I'd been afraid I'd sounded unduly harsh, when I'd basically meant that there's a lot to Jesus-as-was that really hasn't entirely fit into anybody's book so far. & that much of the add-on stuff is also in character, & serves to develop our understandings. Some of the best interpretation I've found was by people who got the history wrong or just didn't care abt that end!

At 4:24pm on 11th mo. 22, 2014, Keith Saylor said…

Hello Mike, 

Thank you for your response to my questions on the Recovering History thread. It is much appreciated. I'm writing to you here because I had no thoughts to share that would further the specific discussion. 

Your closing words caught my attention:

My sense is that the driving motive Quaker faith in action is always this:

I must take care of my neighbor and refuse to comply with the hurtful policies of those in power anywhere--regardless of whether I change the actions of those in power.

I spent time with these words because they did not hit my mind cordially, and I was lost as to why. Slowly, the sense of it manifested in the resilience of silence. 

Presence is the motivation. Direct experience is Quaker faith in action. The direct, immediate experience of Christ's presence is the Principle; outward principles or rationalized conceptual constructs, abstractions such as care for neighbors or resistance to statist imposition, is outside of Presence itself. I am Presence and do not reference outward ideologies, theologies, principles, etc. as sources of motivation. If I help my neighbor or if I do not help my neighbor I do so in the direct experience and light of the inward Principle; anchored within conscious and informing conscience. In the Light their is no reflection upon or identity with and through the outward ideologies or principles. There is pure action in the freedom of the unrefracted light within ... Here the self-conscious ego, anchored in Presence, acts without predictions and in complete freedom without reference (without looking back on outward thoughts). This is Quaker faith in action.

I write this not in the expectation that these words are cordial to your mind or with any expectation that you agree with them. I appreciate you sharing your "sense" because, in doing so, you have helped me push through to a deeper walk in Presence.

 
 
 

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