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In Charlotte ...

Started this discussion. Last reply by Forrest Curo 9th month 23, 2016. 18 Replies

There is a need for Quakers in Charlotte with the message of the complete sufficiency of the inward Light to guide and rule human life and relationships. This message can offset the destructive…Continue

2016 Presidential Campaign - An article at Politico.

Started 9th month 20, 2016 0 Replies

I appreciate the thoughtfulness of this assessment of the 2016 presidential campaign published at Politico.On The Ideas of Donald Trump.…Continue

From: The Ear of the Soul ...

Started 7th month 22, 2016 0 Replies

I noticed this post after following a link posted in the Daily Pick section of this website. It has captivated my attention and thought some of you who haven't read it, might find it as edifying as I…Continue

M w wting in San Francisco Area?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Keith Saylor 4th month 6, 2015. 4 Replies

I'm in San Francisco for a few days. Any suggestions for a Meeting in the area. Unprogrammed or programed.

 

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Comfort in Turmoil

The experience of the self-sustaining eternal life of God immanently established in the consciousness, so that self-awareness, identity, meaning, and purpose is established in God's immanent self-sustaining life, is habitation in the coming of the Kingdom of God into human history.Taking up habitation in this different way of being in the world often results in people being drawn out of the process of identification with and participation in outwardly established institutional forms and…See More
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"Thank you Matt, I appreciate this effort."
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Being Drawn into the Life itself.

Research Notes: TGMOTGCharles Leslie on page 196 of his 1697 edition of The Snake in the Grass highlights one of George Fox's responses to one of William Thomas' reflections on Quakers. Fox's response can be read in context on page 237 of the 1596 edition of The Great Mystery of the Great Whore which reads in part:The work of the Miniſters of the Goſpel was not to reflect upon perſons, or strike at creatures ...; but they struck at the power which captivated the creature, to the intent that the…See More
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Keith Saylor replied to Matthew Callow's discussion '“A general dyet, estates or parliament” for the nations of Europe'
"Hello Matthew, I'm merely asking questions. I have no expectations on when you may answer. I do look forward to any responses you may have as time permits. The ESR Digital Collection does include Penn's Essay on the Present and Future…"
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Keith Saylor replied to Matthew Callow's discussion '“A general dyet, estates or parliament” for the nations of Europe'
"Hello Matthew, Thank you for your response. I am appreciative for you reference to Penn's essay. I could not glean a facsimile of the original publication, however, I did pull up a reprint of the 1693 original printed in 1912. This reprint…"
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Those who would suffer the Lamb to rise.

I am in the midst of effort to keyboard The Mystery of the Great Whore by George Fox (1659), The Snake in the Grass by Charles Leslie (1697 Second Edition), and A Charge of Error ... by Henry Pickworth (1716). These texts will be integrated and cross-referenced with the texts currently published in the Christonomy Project on www.Christonomy.net. In Pickworth's A Charge of Error, I recently keyboarded a chunk of text which is significant to me…See More
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Keith Saylor replied to Matthew Callow's discussion '“A general dyet, estates or parliament” for the nations of Europe'
"Hello Matthew, Thank you for sharing your reflections on the United Kingdom's disassociation with the European Union. I have followed this issue through the years and have a couple initial questions. Can you confirm that the UK's original…"
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The mystery of a faith held in a pure conscience.

James Naylor, in his “A Discovery of the First Wisdom from Beneath, and the Second Wisdom from Above” wrote two phrases that can be seen as a reflection of the mystery of a consciousness anchored in and a conscience informed by the direct experience of immanently sustained being itself in itself inshining upon the consciousness and conscience.First he wrote that “the will and the brain are the serpents seat” ( View in Source -…See More
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Keith Saylor left a comment for Daniel O'Keefe
"Hello Daniel, Your comment is received in love and affection. It sometimes happens in human relations, and for the sake of conscience, that people affirm one another though, through the appearance of the Spirit of Christ, they are of a different…"
10th month 3, 2019
Keith Saylor replied to Daniel O'Keefe's discussion 'How is "community" carried out in a Quaker monthly meeting?'
"In Short: There is a way of being wherein people become aware of or experience immanent self-sustained being inshining upon their consciousness and conscience. This experience or awareness of immanent being in itself becomes that which may gather…"
9th month 16, 2019
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9th month 11, 2019
Doug Loomer commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'Help finding a specific word for a specific behavior.'
"Perhaps the term you are looking for is "gaslighting?" Some basic elements of gaslighting may include: attempting to convince someone of the truth of something intuitively bizarre or outrageous by forcefully insisting on it or by…"
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Doug Loomer commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'Help finding a specific word for a specific behavior.'
"Perhaps the term you are looking for is "gaslighting?" Some basic elements of gaslighting may include: attempting to convince someone of the truth of something intuitively bizarre or outrageous by forcefully insisting on it or by…"
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A Testimony to Living Witness ...
I am gathered in and by the inshining Light itself in itself upon my conscience and live this gathering in all things and circumstances. This gathered life owns the Light as the foundation of consciousness and is the sole informer and guide in and of the conscience. In this gathered Life, I experience self-consciousness in participation with the Light itself so that I am come into, experimentally, the active living and identification with the Light itself; in this way, I am the Light and know and own who I am which is shared by and is the inheritance of all persons.

In being gathered by the Light, it is discovered that this experimentally gathered Life is sufficient in itself to rule and govern the conscience and support consciousness; so that I am come out of identification with outward religious, political, and social, forms and contrivances as a source of meaning or purpose. I am not of these things. I am gathered into the invisible Children of Light ... independent and unaffiliated with any outward political, religious, or social form or institution; including the the outward forms and institution of Quakerism. I am gathered into the independent and unaffiliated Children of Light.

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Comfort in Turmoil

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The experience of the self-sustaining eternal life of God immanently established in the consciousness, so that self-awareness, identity, meaning, and purpose is established in God's immanent self-sustaining life, is habitation in the coming of the Kingdom of God into human history.

Taking up habitation in this different way of being…

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Being Drawn into the Life itself.

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Research Notes: TGMOTG

Charles Leslie on page 196 of his 1697 edition of The Snake in the Grass highlights one of George Fox's responses to one of William Thomas' reflections on Quakers. Fox's response can be read in context on page 237 of the 1596 edition of The Great Mystery of the Great Whore which reads in part:

The work of the Miniſters of the Goſpel was not to reflect upon perſons, or strike at creatures ...; but they struck at the power…

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Those who would suffer the Lamb to rise.

Posted on 1st mo. 31, 2020 at 5:26pm 0 Comments

I am in the midst of effort to keyboard The Mystery of the Great Whore by George Fox (1659), The Snake in the Grass by Charles Leslie (1697 Second Edition), and A Charge of Error ... by Henry Pickworth (1716). These texts will be integrated and cross-referenced with the texts currently published in the Christonomy Project on www.Christonomy.net. In Pickworth's A Charge of Error, I recently keyboarded a…

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The mystery of a faith held in a pure conscience.

Posted on 12th mo. 14, 2019 at 1:36pm 0 Comments

James Naylor, in his “A Discovery of the First Wisdom from Beneath, and the Second Wisdom from Above” wrote two phrases that can be seen as a reflection of the mystery of a consciousness anchored in and a conscience informed by the direct experience of immanently sustained being itself in itself inshining upon the consciousness and conscience.

First he wrote that “the will and the brain are the serpents seat” ( View in Source -…

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At 9:11am on 12th mo. 8, 2016, Forrest Curo said…

As some of the older people in my Meeting would have said, "Perhaps the message was not addressed to [me]."

At 12:03am on 12th mo. 7, 2016, Forrest Curo said…

For a beginning, he's misread what Jesus was talking about and misinterpreted the purpose of the young man's question. Later on, he gets caught in a misleading dichotomy between someone's idea of liberal individualism vs someone's idea of community authority; the truth is seldom anywhere near a dichotomy, neither on an end nor in the middle, but simply somewhere else. He seems to end up hoping that "capitalism" (wherever _that_ might be found!) may be a loose enough system to leave more room for following Christ -- another great confusion of irrelevancies and what transcends all that... stuff. It isn't that some people think too much; but quantity is never a substitute for quality. Theology should never be abandoned to theologians, 'armchair' or any other sort -- but no doubt God forgives us our efforts.

At 8:48pm on 12th mo. 6, 2016, Forrest Curo said…

Thanks for the question. It looks to me to be another example of someone intelligently missing the point -- but right now I don't have time to finish it; my wife likes me to rest her eyes by reading to her before we meditate. More later, I hope, after I'm done reading & digesting...

At 12:03pm on 3rd mo. 2, 2016, Kirby Urner said…

Thanks for your comments Keith.  It's not either / or right? 

Some brands of Quaker want to invent institutions as an expression of their faith, whereas others wish God's native intelligence to shine through, leaving it more to the Spirit to do the Self organizing. 

The latter approach appears more anarchic from the outside, but the actual participants may appreciate a certain Good Order of Friends nevertheless. 

There should be room enough for these various brands of practice.  Quakers are already all over the map in terms of how they present themselves.

At 10:40pm on 12th mo. 11, 2015, William F Rushby said…

I urge you to describe this news item briefly, and provide the URL for other QQ members to read the article.

At 10:30pm on 12th mo. 11, 2015, William F Rushby said…

Keith:  Thanks for calling this to my attention.  I don't believe it's right to have an "edifice complex" but, on the other hand, demolishing that piece of Quaker history and area history strikes me as being unnecessary and very sad. Sue Hewes, from the Poplar Ridge Meeting, was in our college Young Friends Fellowship.

At 12:32pm on 11th mo. 18, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Thanks for the report.  I can certainly see how being involved in the discussions on QuakerQuaker would be a distraction.  I look forward to having the fruit of your labor in the Light available.

At 11:10am on 11th mo. 18, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Keith, I miss hearing from you.  I suspect my computer has lost contact with yours, again.  The last thing I have on your page is, "Thanks Forrest and Diane. I really needed that. :-)"  Hope the connection comes back, again,  soon.  It just came back apparently spontaneously last time.

At 6:36pm on 8th mo. 5, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Keith, no I’m not a member, though, I’m continually experimenting with Light and have the good fortune to gather regularly with people who are also doing so.  Not all have come to the practice through Quakerism; some wound up checking us out through reading about Friends and stayed because they found what they were looking for.  Because of our lack of interest in the outward forms, we are an enigma to the yearly meeting.  The people now constituting the local meeting have brought it to a new place.

 

In reading Rogers two letters to Fox I seem to be getting a glimmer of what you’re referring to.  I feel his groaning as he wrestles with how things came to this point. Particularly that Fox had moved on from the message of the Light in their conscience available to move and guide them to needing outward forms to structure them.  And desiring with all his heart for Fox to say his intentions were being misrepresented by his followers.  Also, the pain of having Fox not answer him directly, but continuing to accuse Rogers of having left his first love and then Fox not responding at all.

At 3:47pm on 8th mo. 2, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Keith, I agree with your assessment of the nature of Wilkinson’s spirit and Fox’s in their letters.  Even Wilkinson’s conciliatory tone isn’t keeping me from wearying of the abundance of words being sent back and forth.  I’m not feeling Presence speaking through them. 

 

Gathering together for communion with Presence and going forth in Presence to care for the widows and orphans, feed the hungry, give water to the thirsty and visit those in prison is what energizes me.

 

I would be interested in hearing what you think of Rex Ambler's “Experiment with Light.”  Are you familiar with it?  The web address is http://www.experiment-with-light.org.uk/.

 
 
 

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A Time of Spiritual and Social Ferment

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