Fellow Seekers,

I have always been taught that God does not change but since I was little I found it unsettling that God's behavior as written in the Old Testament was different than what is written in the New Testament.  I asked questions about it but have never been satisfied by the answers.  Only recently have I started thinking about this again.  God is considered to be by believers (as I am), to be the source of life.  But what is life and how is it experienced by those of us who claim to be living?  I claim to be living and I choose to believe that the idea of “me” will continue in some form beyond the time when my body no longer functions so, I might attempt to describe what”life" is to me by the these words: seeking, experiencing and a willingness to change.  “Death" to me is: non-seeking, blindness to ‘what is' and resistance to change.  What seems to be true no matter what, is that change occurs.  

I choose to believe as I have been taught that God is life, and is alive.  So I wonder, is God seeking?  He/she seems to have a mission and has missions designed for each of us.  I have experienced Gods direction to move forward with his intention/mission for me.  On the occasions when I have posed this query to someone the response has been from those who believe that God is unchangeable, that “God knows everything”.  

Why was there a need for God to change his behavior toward humanity?  It is claimed in the New Testament that there is a new covenant.  

Scientific experimentation states that in the physical world everything changes whether it’s considered alive or dead.  I choose for the time being to live according to these ideas:

  • What I experience in this physical world has something to say about life without physical form.
  • The God that I know asks me to be authentic in the moment so doesn’t ask of me what he doesn’t ask of himself.  
  • If I and we are in truth connected to God in a Oneness this makes possible that there is 'that of God within each person’ as the Quakers have taught, then as we change God changes.  

I have in the past jokingly stated, "Who knows what or who God is?  This world may be some alien kid’s middle school science project”.

My conception of God is of life and in some unimaginable way living, growing, willing to change and changing.  Do I know this to be true? Answer: No, but as long as the fruit of this idea proves worthy I will continue the experiment.   

 

Wishing you well!

Stuart

 

 

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Comment by Jim Rose on 7th mo. 31, 2011 at 2:25pm

Stuart,

 

An interesting approach.  But I am more comfortable with the view that people change. In particular my understanding of the Divine evolves, and the recorded history is a history of an evolving understanding of the Light.

Comment by James C Schultz on 8th mo. 2, 2011 at 10:21am

 

It helps me to think of our relationship with God as changing as our ability to act unselfishly has increased through the years.  In the beginning our ancestors had to focus on survival.  God had to deal with them where they were at.  In Hebrews Paul writes at Heb 3:3  For Jesus has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses--as much more glory as the builder of a house has more honor than the house itself.

Heb 3:4  (For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God.)
Heb 3:5  Now Moses was faithful in all God's house as a servant, to testify to the things that were to be spoken later,
Heb 3:6  but Christ is faithful over God's house as a son. And we are his house if indeed we hold fast our confidence and our boasting in our hope.

And John writes in Chapter 15 at verse 15: "No longer do I call you servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you. "

I believe this shows us how our relationship with God has changed.  Because that relationship has changed God treats us differently just as we treat our employees differently than we do our friends and it's our ability to be friends that has changed.  In Genesis Adam and Eve were not God's friends.  Eve didn't tell Him what the Serpent said.  She only thought of herself and Adam did the same.  That's not the basis of friendship.  What Jesus did as a man forms the basis of friendship and we get the benefit of that just as we got the penalty of Adam and Eve's selfishness  (1 Corinthians 15:49 just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven). and

Rom 5:16  And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. 

May God continue to change the two of us.

2Co 3:18  And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.
Comment by Nick Block on 8th mo. 15, 2011 at 3:56pm

Two stories in Matthew 15, about which Barbara Lundblad says 'Jesus was converted that day to a larger vision of the common wealth of God." and the first few verses of Isaiah 56, of which Fred Gaiser says is the "only case in the Old Testament where one divine word of scripture outright abrogates another..." (overturning Levitical and Deuteronomical limitations on priesthood and worship) --not to mention where the scriptures say that "God repented of..." strongly suggests to me that God changes, that different situations require openness to redirections, and that we need to sit pretty loose to what we've been told or what we've determined is to always be the case.   In the Old and New Testament readings - the situation is similar - the establishment like things the way they are (i.e. Pharisees grumbling over Jesus' apparent disregard for ceremonial purity and the disciples -and Jesus not wanting to deal with the alien) on one hand and the Ezra/Nehemiah priestly caste restoring a code of exclusivity based on their holiness code.  In both instances - God changes the ground rules and embraces inclusivity and grace.  I love it.   And, if Jesus can change, maybe I can too.

Can their be a surprising new word that opens us to new an ever re-newing creation?

Nick 

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