[I was invited to talk about Quakers for my wife's adult Sunday school class at St Mark's Episcopal Church nearby, which I normally attend on my way to Meeting. What I told them is true and accurate to the best of my knowledge, but is not a description agreed to by any official Quaker body. Continue
This post was short enough to read in the first week's session, together with short portions of George Fox's Journal and Pacific Yearly Meeting's Faith and Practice. The next post…
Added by Forrest Curo on 11th mo. 18, 2012 at 12:34am —
I’m in the process of transferring an old, inherited Bible study blog to wordpress.
That’s Reading The Light Through the Pages. It was started by a Quaker but has always been open to a range of comments and contributors.
As the last active participant from the old site, I intend to aggressively recruit new people, likewise from a wide range, but with the… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 5th mo. 31, 2012 at 12:35am —
I wasn’t given
a savage tongue
to savage people
but to wake them up
If you’re happy in your nightmare
close your earlids tight because
there’s so much for you
to look forward to.
is a figment; rationality
is a figment; the Gotcha God
ain’t gonna get you but
the music’s getting scary and
mistakes have been made;
The Judgment is now; settle
out of court; cop a plea;…
Added by Forrest Curo on 5th mo. 27, 2012 at 12:40am —
I'm told (via "Quaker Jane") that "Let your lives speak" literally isn't in George Fox's writings.
The well-known example, of phrases that come close, is of course from his Journal. Ironically, it is in a letter he addressed "To Friends in the Ministry."
"Bring all into the worship of God: plow up the fallow ground thresh and get out the corn, that all people may come to… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 5th mo. 8, 2012 at 1:38pm —
He told them this parable: "A man had a fig-tree growing in his vineyard; and he came looking for fruit on it, but found none.
"So he said to the vine-dresser, 'Look here! For the last three years I have been looking for fruit on this…
Added by Forrest Curo on 4th mo. 9, 2012 at 12:41am —
Added by Forrest Curo on 1st mo. 22, 2012 at 8:56pm —
Less reverence for everyone's poor silly gospels.
More attention to what that other silly fool actually means.
More faith in the One who leads us.
More sense of proportion.
More time than I have to waste, lately.
If I've recently failed to hold up my end in Friendly games of Mudinyourface, it may be because I'd much… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 12th mo. 20, 2011 at 10:15am —
Several of us at my Meeting would like us to pass a minute in support of the Occupy movement... and our Clerk thought when we next meet for business... "Would you write it?"
I could see right away there will be difficulties. The Meeting is dominated by academic types of the Phd persuasion, and as John Ralston Saul pointed out in Voltaire's Bastards, specialization and a comfortable life are not unmitigated blessings. Many of us… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 11th mo. 11, 2011 at 11:00am —
Added by Forrest Curo on 10th mo. 29, 2011 at 11:54am —
Make your signs beautiful, for God to see. Continue
They are prayers, not to be wasted
on that gang of lying brats who swindle us of power;
they're for that starved angel they keep
chained in the national basement.
Make your signs bright, for the blind to read
and don't expect victory, just miracles.
Don't demand peace or call loudly for justice.
Beg mercy. Our nation's trial
is now in the sentencing phase.…
Added by Forrest Curo on 10th mo. 2, 2011 at 8:54pm —
We got to something really problematical in [a recent] post on prophets... (1 Kings 20) and also a Jesus saying-- that his true kin are whoever 'hears and does' God's will-- seems to tie in somewhere. [Both on Friendly Scripture Study
abt the same time.]
A large chunk of the Bible can be read as Obedience Training for Humans!
It's that simple? Hardly!
Adam, Eve, every ancient Israelite… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 9th mo. 30, 2011 at 12:00pm —
We call what we're studying [on the kwakerskripturestudy blog] "Scripture", which means "written stuff."
People have gone from an overly-reverent attitude towards scripture, to effective neglect. "There's some very inspiring and ethically-instructive material in all that, and you can read it if you like, but we want to rush out and make a difference in the world."
Added by Forrest Curo on 8th mo. 27, 2011 at 10:38am —
Traditionally we call these 'covenants', but there's no distinction that I can see: deals, covenants, treaties, contracts-- all about "We'll do this and You'll do that."
There's sort of an implied deal in a sacrifice; we eat some of it, the god eats some of it, and we hope relations will stay friendly, because a god on your side can't hurt, but one who's against you is bad news...
But we make a 'covenant' when we'd like to negotiate and make the details… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 7th mo. 2, 2011 at 7:00pm —
Maybe just my prejudice. Maybe being very conscious of style... and finding no resemblance whatsoever between the style of the synoptic Jesus, and the rather pompous style of John's "Jesus."
I know, I know, John is just being symbolic about Jesus' role in the scheme of things... and every once in awhile there's a really good quote. But mostly it's "I know who I am & Who sent me, and you don't, which just goes to show what a clueless, evil bunch you are..." Mostly… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 6th mo. 10, 2011 at 1:18am —
April 20, 2011
An Open Letter to Ministry and Oversight, to the Clerk, members and attenders of San Diego Meeting of “The Religious Society of Friends.” And To All Friends, for Consideration
As all things come from God-- Disagreement is a gift, however disagreeable it may seem. Disagreement is an opportunity to… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 4th mo. 20, 2011 at 1:09pm —
Over Anne's piano we have a large, intricate drawing by her grandmother. (Her brother's wife refused to have it in their house.) It depicts a woman in long robes, holding a mask up to her featureless head, a string of discarded masks trailing to the ground at her feet.
I've been thinking lately about gods and angels... and archetypes, and how this all connects. One influence was a friend's post about 'The Angel of a Meeting' (… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 3rd mo. 21, 2011 at 7:30pm —
My Meeting has a private listserv, and I've always been in contention about it, saying that we should be discussing everything, and if we dared, doing it publicly, taking on all honest commentors, etc.
I post links to articles there that are way too radical for most of our respectable leaders-- because the content is true, significant, and urgent.
Said leaders complain that they "don't have time" to look at the discussion material that comes their way. I… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 1st mo. 1, 2011 at 6:18am —
I've gotten caught up in discussions about "that of God in each person," and whether that means what it seems to, or whether it means what George Fox meant by it, and finally-- Is it true?
It seems pretty clear to me-- that God creates the universe from inside us, that God "lives" us-- that this is the only tenable explanation of how we can truly be alive: having God living our life in us. And yet, in some theological models this is seen as mistaken, as an illegitimate transformation… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 11th mo. 25, 2010 at 2:30am —
One day when he was feeling his own faults very strongly, Murshid [Sam Lewis] went into meditation and asked God what to do. He received the answer:
"Your faults are My Perfections."
In the Garden [writings from & about Murshid Sam Lewis]
It isn't easy being a critical person. "The Accuser," after all, is the true meaning of the name "Satan". But somebody's got to do it (I… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 9th mo. 20, 2010 at 11:00pm —
I came to my first Quaker meeting around 1960, because (even though I'd been raised an atheist) my best friend had invited me. And though I found that meeting a good experience, I remained an atheist & therefore didn't think I should return. Later, after I'd been drawn into the "psychedelic" mass-awakening of the time, I occasionally attended Meeting, but didn't really fit in.
Later in the 60's I read a line in a friend's Sufi book, that really clicked-- about God… Continue
Added by Forrest Curo on 9th mo. 13, 2010 at 12:00am —