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5th month 16, 2011
jeremy hardin mott left a comment for jeremy hardin mott
"Hello Denny and Paula,  Paula, you can be pleased and should also be grateful to the Friends long ago (maybe 1940 or so) who created your Columbus meeting.  Nothing like this happened in Salem, even though it was once a major Quaker…"
4th month 24, 2011
Paula Deming left a comment for jeremy hardin mott
"Hi, Jeremy, Wow, I learn something new here every day! Thank you for the history lesson. My family spent two generations in Salem, Ohio, before pushing on to Iowa. I had no idea that Hicksite Friends disappeared from Ohio at that point. I am pleased…"
4th month 23, 2011
jeremy hardin mott left a comment for Denny Barnes
"Dear Denny, Of course Mott was once a well-known Quaker name. The name may be found in Ohio, and almost anywhere where Quakers are found in the U.S.A.  I imagine that I am very distantly related to James Mott, like you.  The Quaker…"
4th month 23, 2011
Denny Barnes left a comment for jeremy hardin mott
"Oooops! The Plymouth Meeting in today's Bartlett, Ohio was founded in 1837."
4th month 23, 2011
Denny Barnes left a comment for jeremy hardin mott
"Jeremy, Are you related to Sarah Mott (mother) and Daniel Mott (s0n) who appear to have founded the Plymouth Meeting (now Bartlett, Ohio) in about 1937? They were distant relatives of James Mott husband of Lucretia Mott. I have noted your…"
4th month 23, 2011
Paula Deming left a comment for jeremy hardin mott
"Very interesting, Jeremy! I checked our meetinghouse library catalog, but didn't find anything by a Louise Jones, alas. My family left Iowa to go to Oregon, near The Dalles, but it was my impression this was just a family matter, as my…"
2nd month 4, 2011
Paula Deming left a comment for jeremy hardin mott
"Jeremy, my first spiritual home was Roanoke! I was there in December for Lloyd Lee Wilson's talk. Were you there, or at the Christmas party at John's? I thought I'd drop you a note because my great grandfather was also disowned in…"
2nd month 1, 2011
jeremy hardin mott commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Purity is in the Eye of the Beholder'
"Kevin, I am also thankful for this very good piece.  In my most recent comment, of course               I meant that the Friend on the Jersey shore had to hole up in the upstairs…"
1st month 31, 2011
jeremy hardin mott commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Purity is in the Eye of the Beholder'
"Actually,  I  think we are both right.  In other churches, e.g. Roman Catholic,                      excommunication means being cut off from God----something the                     church was (and is) thought to have power to do.  Friends…"
1st month 31, 2011
jeremy hardin mott commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Purity is in the Eye of the Beholder'
"Friends who were read out of meeting were not being "excommunicated." We do not believe that any person is cut off from God.  A Friend who was disowned, or read out of meeting, might still attend meeting for worship, and many did so.…"
1st month 31, 2011
jeremy hardin mott commented on Jo Ann Zimmerman's blog post 'Penn Army of None joins Philadelphia Yearly Meeting'
"Thank you, Penn Army of None. Something like this has been desperately needed for a very long time. In the last few years, I know of several younger members of New York Yearly Meeting, Baltimore Yearly Meeting, and Central Yearly Meeting of Indiana…"
11th month 12, 2010
jeremy hardin mott replied to Rosemary Gould's discussion 'Plain Speech'
"Paula, Looking through a recent issue of Quaker Life magazine,, I see at least four semi-programmed meetings in Wilmington (Ohio) Y.M.. the FUM yearly meeting in the southwestern part of Ohio. I believe that still other meetings (churches) in that…"
11th month 6, 2010
jeremy hardin mott commented on Rosemary Gould's blog post 'Departed Friends and Memorial Day'
"Rosemary, I'm afraid the truth is that I knew none of the Friends you wrote about. My aunt and uncle, and my cousins, were not Friends, so we would not have attended Friends meeting no matter how often it was held in 1961. I don't know if…"
11th month 5, 2010
jeremy hardin mott replied to Rosemary Gould's discussion 'Plain Speech'
"Ruth Ann Crum, Spring Garden Friends Meetitng sounds interesting. From what I hear, there are meetings of every conceivable variety around Greensboro----ten all told. The only sort of Friends meeting that you may be missing is an Hispanic…"
11th month 5, 2010
jeremy hardin mott replied to Rosemary Gould's discussion 'Plain Speech'
"Hello Paula, I attend at Roanoke, Va., which is also in Baltimore y.m. However, I have been an almost life-long member and attender at Ridgewood meeting, in northern New Jersey, which is a member of New York Y.M. New York and New England…"
11th month 5, 2010

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At 1:58am on 4th mo. 24, 2011, jeremy hardin mott said…

Hello Denny and Paula,  Paula, you can be pleased and should also be

grateful to the Friends long ago (maybe 1940 or so) who created

your Columbus meeting.  Nothing like this happened in Salem, even

though it was once a major Quaker center.  Once the Hicksite meeting

was laid down, it was never replaced.  It is great to learn that Friends

from Lake Erie Y.M. are among those on Quaker Quaker.

     Hicksite Quakerism never entirely disappeaared in Ohio.  In

Quaker geography,  the southwest corner of the state has always

been entirely different from the rest.  The FGC meetings in that

area belonged (and still do belong) to Indiana Y.M. (FGC), now

renamed Ohio Valley Y.M. 

Denny, it's hard to explain the terrible decline of Quakerism in

Ohio.  Perhaps the four-way split, with Friends from all over

(even England for the second split in the 1850's) coming to watch,

helps to explain things.  The Civil War no doubt did much to

destroy Ohio Quakerism,  The Progressives were more important

among Friends in Ohio than elsewhsre.  Once the Civil War was

over, the Ohio Progressives pretty much disintegrated---as if

Quakers no longer had any work to do in the world.  Many scholars

believe that the influx of non-Friends  into our Society in the

post-Civil-War years did much to explain how most Friends

 became a species of evangelical Protestants, much like the others.

        For an overview of Quakerism during the 1800's,  I urge all

readers here to read the Autobiography of Allen Jay, just now

published by Friends United Press,

       Blessings,     Jeremy Mott

At 4:53pm on 4th mo. 23, 2011, Paula Deming said…

Hi, Jeremy,

Wow, I learn something new here every day! Thank you for the history lesson. My family spent two generations in Salem, Ohio, before pushing on to Iowa. I had no idea that Hicksite Friends disappeared from Ohio at that point.

I am pleased to report that several of us from Lake Erie Yearly Meeting--here at North Columbus Friends--are active on Quakerquaker. Word of mouth.... ;D

Yours in the Light, Paula

At 11:08am on 4th mo. 23, 2011, Denny Barnes said…
Oooops! The Plymouth Meeting in today's Bartlett, Ohio was founded in 1837.
At 11:06am on 4th mo. 23, 2011, Denny Barnes said…
Jeremy,

Are you related to Sarah Mott (mother) and Daniel Mott (s0n) who appear to have founded the Plymouth Meeting (now Bartlett, Ohio) in about 1937? They were distant relatives of James Mott husband of Lucretia Mott. I have noted your references to Quaker history.

I am trying to understand what happened to my ancestors' Quaker faith in the period 1840-1880. It seems there was much tumult in the Quaker community in Ohio.

My Great Great Grandfather William Smith Heald was an abolitionist who operated a "Station" on the Underground Railroad near Bartlett. I believe he was a member of the Plymouth (Bartlett) Meeting and had ties to the Chesterhill Quaker Community north of Barlett.

Something happened. By the early 1900's, nobody in my family tree was a practicing Quaker. Could it be the Hicksite/Wilburite/Gurnseyite rifts? Could it be the impact of the Civil War? Did Westward migration dilute their beliefs? I am not sure and am trying to understand.

My interest is not academic. Suddenly I have a great longing to know something of my Quaker ancestors' spirituality. Pretty odd considering I am living in modern Shanghai, a megalopolis of 14 million people hellbent on making money as fast as possible and living in a completely materialistic secular world.

Thanks for any guidance.
At 3:28pm on 2nd mo. 4, 2011, Paula Deming said…

Very interesting, Jeremy!

I checked our meetinghouse library catalog, but didn't find anything by a Louise Jones, alas.

My family left Iowa to go to Oregon, near The Dalles, but it was my impression this was just a family matter, as my greatgrandfather and his brother (Quaker) joined my greatgrandmother's uncle (nonQuaker) to try sheepranching. Most of the rest of the family migrated shortly thereafter with a lot of other Quakers to Altadena, California. I believe Nixon's family were part of that migration as well.

Although West Liberty and Indianola aren't terribly close, perhaps you know whether they were both part of Ohio migrations...?

At 11:12am on 2nd mo. 1, 2011, Paula Deming said…

Jeremy, my first spiritual home was Roanoke! I was there in December for Lloyd Lee Wilson's talk. Were you there, or at the Christmas party at John's?

I thought I'd drop you a note because my great grandfather was also disowned in Iowa! The family lived around West Branch/West Liberty. There's a Quaker cemetery north of West Liberty with many of the family. There was once a meetinghouse on the site, but it's long gone. The cemetery now includes any local who wants to be buried there, but the old section is entirely SoF.

 
 
 

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