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the True Church

Started this discussion. Last reply by geoffrey kaiser 2nd month 5, 2013. 2 Replies

Thanks re KS & RKY mtn yms & The TRUE church Posted by geoffrey kaiser on 1st mo. 28, 2013 at 7:24pm in …Continue

LIBERAL QUAKERS AND WITCHES

Started this discussion. Last reply by Shelia Bumgarner 9th month 24, 2012. 3 Replies

LIBERAL QUAKERS AND WITCHESI am complemented to be called a “typical liberal Friend.”  William Penn, a liberal Friend, was the judge in a witch trial.  Back when the Christians were still burning…Continue

 

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""In the Light I have found fellowship with those who dwelt in dens and desolate places as time began. I just can't bring myself to lessen the wonder and beauty of the Light to being just another go in the Greek pantheon." May we just…"
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Laura Scattergood commented on geoffrey kaiser's blog post 'indianan volcano'
"A majority of Orthodox Friends sincerely believe that you will burn in hell?   I guess'n I better take a poll on my own status, since it seems that these so called Orthodox Friends are keeping very close track of the matter of whose…"
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"You may purchase an updated copy of my chart for $13 (includes postage and box).  I can put as many as 6 charts (at $6 each) in one box for the same postage.  Archival copies are also available for meetinghouse display at $50 each --…"
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Clem Gerdelmann commented on geoffrey kaiser's blog post 'indianan volcano'
"Stray from the founding charism and find yourself astray. See my "On A Short Leash", please."
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Sharon Annis commented on geoffrey kaiser's blog post 'indianan volcano'
"I would also like a copy of the "Family" Tree.  for our Meeting.  We have an older one but the up date would be very helpful. sharon"
3rd month 5, 2013
geoffrey kaiser replied to geoffrey kaiser's discussion 'the True Church'
"Hi, Ryan] Thanks . I've just figured out how to do this answer thing.  I remember what a relief it was when I first put it together that the One that is available to teach & lead is the same Light that has been available to all since…"
2nd month 5, 2013
Ryan Burgett replied to geoffrey kaiser's discussion 'the True Church'
"I really loved that. Thanks for sharing. I find myself talking about the Light in relation to the scriptures and find folks surprisingly against the concept of truth existing outside of the binding. I guess it makes life and truth easier to control…"
2nd month 4, 2013
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the True Church

Thanks re KS & RKY mtn yms & The TRUE church Posted by geoffrey kaiser on 1st mo. 28, 2013 at 7:24pm in Quaker TalkView Discussions I did indeed have KS & Rm yms backwards. That will change on future charts.WHAT IS THE TRUE…See More
1st month 28, 2013
Michael Jay commented on geoffrey kaiser's blog post 'indianan volcano'
"You mixed up KS Ym and RMYM.  (RMYM was opposed to participation in the 'communist tainted National Council of Churches.'  KYM was the sentence fragment about missionary activity.)Pretty easy typo -- as they are right next to…"
1st month 28, 2013
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"Hi Geoffrey, I got the Quaker tree maps. It is really a great piece of effort. I learned so much just looking at it for just 30 minutes. I put one on the center table of our meetinghouse library, had a piece of table-top glass made, and covered…"
10th month 6, 2012
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"I think it would be of interest to all Friends to post the stats. I do wonder if the stats for FGC meetings is under stated though. Many FGC meetings in modern times do not emphasize membership. For example my meeting places no significance on…"
9th month 24, 2012
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"ach...it should have said the 95+% traditional non pastoral meetings served by FGC doubled in size.... Geoffrey"
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"Hi Howard: Check arrived, I've had three charts printed up for you, they'll be out tomorrow. Thee might find the statistics and graphs for the 20th century at the top a bit of a surprise....pastoral churches went from 93,000 to 50,000, the…"
9th month 24, 2012
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"Hi, Tom...paths cross again... Geoffrey Kaiser."
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LIBERAL QUAKERS AND WITCHES

LIBERAL QUAKERS AND WITCHESI am complemented to be called a “typical liberal Friend.”  William Penn, a liberal Friend, was the judge in a witch trial.  Back when the Christians were still burning witches in New England, Penn came to visit his colony.  Whilst he was there, there was a witch trial.  As Proprietor, we sat as the judge.  There were several good Christians who testified to having seen the accused “flying on a broom”, proof positive she was a witch.  When it came time to pass…See More
9th month 21, 2012

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grew up in Gwynedd Mtg, Pa., active in YFNA,traveled widely among N. American yms with minutes of travel. I an the originator of the Quakers in N. America chart that hangs on many mtg house walls. Founding member FLGC.been married 40 years

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indianan volcano

Posted on 9th mo. 18, 2012 at 9:49pm 15 Comments

Indiana Volcano erupting,.... but where's the magma chamber?

There is about 150 years behind this particular eruption. Thus far pastoral Friends who like to call themselves "Orthodox", and Hicksite/Beanite Friends (wisely) have steered clear of this embarrassing feud.

I'm now 67, and a majority of Orthodox Friends sincerely believe I will burn in hell, so what's to lose ?

I used to visit widely among YM's,  I learned a…

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At 2:41pm on 10th mo. 6, 2012, Howard Brod said…
Hi Geoffrey,

I got the Quaker tree maps. It is really a great piece of effort. I learned so much just looking at it for just 30 minutes.

I put one on the center table of our meetinghouse library, had a piece of table-top glass made, and covered the map with the table-top glass. The map is about an inch smaller than the table top. So it is really striking and neat to be at the table, and able to read the map.

Terrific job and service to Quakers for generations to come!

Light,

Howard Brod
At 7:44pm on 9th mo. 24, 2012, Howard Brod said…
I think it would be of interest to all Friends to post the stats. I do wonder if the stats for FGC meetings is under stated though. Many FGC meetings in modern times do not emphasize membership. For example my meeting places no significance on membership. We have even had clerks of our monthly meeting who were not a member. I assume the stats only count members. I believe the other branches of Quakers place a lot of importance on membership.
At 8:16pm on 9th mo. 20, 2012, Howard Brod said…

Thanks Geoffrey for the info.  I mailed you a check this morning for $25 for three $6 charts and the $7 mailing costs.

My meeting in Midlothian was started by Richmond Meeting some 25 years ago to alleviate their over-crowding.  We purchased our meetinghouse in Midlothian 10 years ago.  I was originally a member of Richmond and transferred my membership to Midlothian. 

Midlothian is probably more liberal Quaker-wise than Richmond.  The 25 years have caused our practice to diverge slightly.  Midlothian is only affiliated with FGC, while Richmond is affiliated with both FGC and FUM (earlier in the 1900's they were entirely an FUM meeting until BYM meetings reunited).  Even so, Richmond is more comfortable and relates more to FGC.  Richmond is very definitive on the roles in the meeting open to members versus attenders.  Midlothian makes no distinction between members and attenders.  I've been told that Richmond "comes to its spirituality through Quakerism", whereas Midlothian "comes to its Quakerism through its spirituality".  Midlothian is much smaller than Richmond, which is quite a large meeting by Quaker standards.

Other than these slight differences, the two meetings are fairly similar, and we often share events, etc. with each other.

I very much enjoyed what you posted.  I have been obsessively interested in Quaker history since first becoming a Quaker in 1987.

Thanks again for your edifying work on making the maze of schisms understandable.

Howard

 
 
 

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