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Cerebrating About God

Started this discussion. Last reply by David Keel 2nd month 6. 3 Replies

I have noticed that some Friends get caught up (or is it ‘entangled”?) in cerebrating (thinking and reasoning) about God and other spiritual matters. What one can and cannot accept or believe becomes…Continue

Faith: The Great Big Puzzle

Started this discussion. Last reply by David Keel 1st month 23. 5 Replies

Matthew Callow commented at the end of his discourse on liberal British Quakerism: "It often feels like we're trying to work something out in Liberal Quakerism, to resolve some great philosophical…Continue

Jon Watts Struggles with Quaker Ministry Issues

Started this discussion. Last reply by William F Rushby 1st month 5. 2 Replies

I live mostly outside of the liberal Quaker orbit and find it difficult to relate to the issues and struggles which appear to animate that culture's belief system and social dynamics!  Just today I…Continue

Quaker Without a Meeting: A Response to Jason

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jon Pol 2nd month 12. 7 Replies

Hello, Jason!You ask what to do when one wants to be a Friend, but there is no compatible meeting nearby.  To answer this question meaningfully would IMHO require more information about your…Continue

 

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William F Rushby replied to Kirby Urner's discussion 'Is Semite Really a Synonym for Jewish?'
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William F Rushby replied to Kirby Urner's discussion 'Is Semite Really a Synonym for Jewish?'
"Who said: "some of my best Jews are Friends!""
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Jon Pol replied to William F Rushby's discussion 'Quaker Without a Meeting: A Response to Jason'
"Posting is three years old, and I'm just curious if it is till attended. And if yes: > ...dominated by a clique that excludes those in the meeting who are not part of it. Though this cases should be rare, Internet is cheap enough [google is…"
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David Keel replied to William F Rushby's discussion 'Cerebrating About God'
"In my youth as a new Christian I decided I would look at a book written by an atheist to try and disprove what he was saying. It turned out to be a mistake and a battle in my mind took place. For a month. I concluded the only way to stop this…"
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William F Rushby replied to William F Rushby's discussion 'Cerebrating About God'
"I have noticed that some Friends get caught up (or is it ‘entangled”?) in cerebrating (thinking and reasoning) about God and other spiritual matters. What one can and cannot accept or believe becomes the focal point of their…"
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Cerebrating About God

I have noticed that some Friends get caught up (or is it ‘entangled”?) in cerebrating (thinking and reasoning) about God and other spiritual matters. What one can and cannot accept or believe becomes the focal point of their spirituality. I find this intellectualizing about religious matters quite tedious, and I see it as a poor launching pad for one’s spiritual journey!When I approach the Throne of Grace, I don’t ask myself lots of questions about God’s character, His “ways and means,” or…See More
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"Welcome to QQ, Catherine!"
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William F Rushby liked William F Rushby's blog post South Starksboro Through a Child's Eyes
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William F Rushby replied to Howard Brod's discussion 'Why do Liberal Friends not Record Ministers or Spiritual Gifts?' in the group Liberal Quakers
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William F Rushby left a comment for David Keel
"David Keel asked: "Is that a photo of you in the car ?"  The answer is yes.  My now-deceased wife and I are in the picture under circumstances I described on my FB page."
1st month 23
David Keel replied to William F Rushby's discussion 'Faith: The Great Big Puzzle'
"I think a big part of that missing puzzle of a Liberal Quaker is not having the light of Christ as their guide.    Jesus said :  But when he the Holy Spirit comes he will guide you into all truth (Gospel of John 16v13).  A lot…"
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"Hi William,  I became interested in George Fox as a younger Christian, and William Penn also.  I was impressed by them and the early Quakers commitment and laying down of their lives in England to go all out to spread the message of…"
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"David: Would you mind telling us about yourself and why you are interested in "the early forms of Quaker and Puritan practical elements of living the Christian life as led by the Holy Spirit."?"
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Ever Hear of Andrea Palpant Gilley? Robert Woodberry?

Posted on 1st mo. 10, 2014 at 1:16pm 1 Comment

The January/February 2014 issue of Christianity Today ran a cover story entitled: "The World The Missionaries Made".  The author is Andrea Gilley.  The author ID said that she "spent part of her childhood in Kenya as the daughter of Quaker missionaries."

Her essay focusses on the research of Robert Woodberry, a sociologist who teaches at the U of Texas.  For his dissertation, he examined the impact of "conversionary" Protestant…

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South Starksboro Through a Child's Eyes

Posted on 12th mo. 14, 2013 at 8:30am 1 Comment

Judy Rushby McLaughlin, one of my sisters, wrote the following reminiscence about the Orthodox Quaker fellowship at South Starksboro VT in the late 1960s.

                                       South Starksboro Through a Child's Eyes.

 

We roared over ribbony road toward the mountains from New York State.  They were mountains that we always looked at from afar off, but seldom went to. The Volkswagen Beetle crawled at a quick clip and struggled up the hill that…

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At 4:00pm on 1st mo. 23, 2020, David Keel said…

Hi William,  I became interested in George Fox as a younger Christian, and William Penn also.  I was impressed by them and the early Quakers commitment and laying down of their lives in England to go all out to spread the message of Jesus. 

And I lived in a town called Horsham where George Fox was imprisoned just a hundred yards from where I was living.   But my interest in them and also the early Puritans  got awakened when the Lord led me out to commit myself to pray and repent each night in the hills where I lived.  I was led by the Holy Spirit each night.  

I would love the Quaker and Puritan movements to return to the place where they were at all of those years ago.

Is that a photo of you in the car ?

At 2:08pm on 1st mo. 20, 2017, Carolyn Taylor said…

Hi there, William..You got my name wrong. It is, 'Carolyn'.

And I would be happy to help you start a group for 'Anabaptis

Friends". That about describes me in a nutshell!

Blessings,

Carolyn

At 9:27am on 1st mo. 20, 2017, Carolyn Taylor said…

Thank You, William!

I joined QQ several years ago. The thing is, I took time away. Thought I was going to be Anabaptist and started attending the Church of God in Christ, Mennonites in Livingston, CA. The only problem is, I don't drive and my husband doesn't want to go 66 miles one way to church even once a month..I would be there all the time, if I could. But cannot be and the Doctrine classes are hard to fit in when people can only come here every so often..nothing regular and so I set it aside. It hurts me very much to do so,too. I have come back to be a Quaker as that is what I was before attempting to be a Mennonite. I live "out of the world" now even more so than before. It is kind of a lonely existence on my narrow way. 

  I am 64, married to Mark for 25 yrs. We have one daughter 18 who is starting college. And four dogs. One is my Diabetic Alert Dog, Regis. The other 3 are Jack Russell Terriers.

Yes I have met some of the OGB people from Modesto. They are lovely folks.

I never met your famous horse or visited a farm here. I live in the woods in Central Stockton next to the original Stockton Country Club. Near Smith Canal and on a quiet circle where mostly  older folks are. We are in a gated community.

At 1:02am on 3rd mo. 12, 2016, Dean E. Hartley said…

My father was Robert Elmer Hartley. Everett was his oldest brother. Everett's son was Harvey. Harvey died in a car accident in the Dominican Republic, March 30, 1963, while serving in the Peace Corps. His only sibling is Dorothy Pearle Hartley Burlingame (on Facebook). Harvey was about 9 years older than me.

At 1:53am on 3rd mo. 9, 2016, T. Vail Palmer, Jr. said…

Since he took over this year as head of Barclay Press, Eric Muhr has been sending out to a contact list a weekly email column titled "Long Story Short."

In this week's "Long Story Short," he included the following words:

"One of our ongoing projects is a study from T Vail Palmer on reading the Bible with empathy, a study whose first volume we hope to release later this year.
Copyright © 2016 Barclay Press, All rights reserved."

At 6:15pm on 12th mo. 11, 2015, Keith Saylor said…

Hello William,

You may have been aware of this, however, just in case you were not I thought you might find it of interest. 

SITE OF FIRST QUAKER MEETING IN CAYUGA COUNTY DEMOLISHED

Historic Ledyard home demolished, site of Cayuga County's first Quaker meeting.

At 6:03pm on 7th mo. 27, 2015, Don Badgley said…

The New Your Yearly Meeting website is NYYM.org

At 6:02pm on 7th mo. 27, 2015, Don Badgley said…

Friends,

My keynote message will be posted on the Yearly Meeting website by week's end.  I can send it directly if you wish.  Just ask at don51249@aol.com.  Thanks for the interest.

At 1:34am on 4th mo. 1, 2015, Christopher Willis said…

Hi!  Thank you for the welcome!  I am a birthright Quaker but strayed as a young man, probably because of my age and some of the new age influences of my parents generation.  I am searching to be better, but more feel a drive to become more active, rather than passive believer.  I am seeking an outlet, perhaps through some sort of developing world "missionary" works.

Thank you

At 9:01am on 3rd mo. 18, 2015, Patricia Dallmann said…

Good morning, Bill. I am happy to report that the missing Benson passage in which differing approaches of Fox and Barclay are contrasted is to be found in "What did George Fox Teach About Christ?" on pages 10 and 11. Thanks to Ellis Hein for locating it.

Bill, you did, in fact, state the gist of Benson's thought on this when you wrote: "Fox's emphasis was on the dialogical I-Thou relationship between Christ and His people, highlighting the prophetic focus of Fox and the early Friends." I don't agree with you though that "theological system rather than dialogue becomes for Barclay the key to religious knowing." It's not too fine a parsing, I think, to say that while Barclay delineated Quaker belief in a systematic way, he did not locate Truth within that intellectual formulation; he points beyond reason to revelation: "the testimony of the Spirit is that alone by which the true knowledge of God hath been, is, and can be only revealed" (The Second Proposition). I remain convinced that the difference between Fox and Barclay is one of intent (to preach or to inform) , not one of theology.

The entire passage of Benson's writing is worth sharing, but there's not enough space here to do that. Here are the last few paragraphs:

One important difference between Fox's language and the language of the Quaker apologists is that Fox frequently uses the words "speak", "voice", and "obey" in connection with the Light. He says "Hear the Light" at least 46 times. He speaks of "Hearing the Voice of the
Light",15 and he says, "This Light ... speaks to you"16.

"Hear his Voice who is risen from the dead"i 7; "Since he is risen and ascended, they must have  their spiritual ear to hear the spiritual voice of Christ."18 Fox is calling men to listen to the Voice of the risen Christ who is alive and present in the midst of his people. But this kind of language
gradually fades away and is rarely found in later Quaker writings.

The encounter with Christ, the Light, is an encounter with a personal sovereign will that is distinct from our own will. The Light reproves and condemns and calls to repentance. It is experienced as a voice of command that must be heard and obeyed. This is what gave moral certainty and moral strength to the early Quaker community. (Italics are Benson's.)

 

 
 
 

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William F Rushby replied to Kirby Urner's discussion 'Is Semite Really a Synonym for Jewish?'
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William F Rushby replied to Kirby Urner's discussion 'Is Semite Really a Synonym for Jewish?'
"Who said: "some of my best Jews are Friends!""
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Kirby Urner replied to Kirby Urner's discussion 'Is Semite Really a Synonym for Jewish?'
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"Posting is three years old, and I'm just curious if it is till attended. And if yes: >…"
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David Keel replied to William F Rushby's discussion 'Cerebrating About God'
"In my youth as a new Christian I decided I would look at a book written by an atheist to try and…"
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