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Searching for God while in the company of others is not what Jesus taught.
Jesus recommends that we get alone . . . in a closet.
The duty to produce . . . while in the company of others . . . distorts the information we hear."
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Universalism as a means to social harmony
Started this discussion. Last reply by Rupert Booth 4th month 2, 2011. 22 Replies 0 Likes
The theme of “Can one be a Quaker/Universalist and a Christian/Buddhist?” and discussions on relations within the diverse range of Friends, are popular topics amongst Quaker Universalists. However…Continue
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I have been recently reading or reading about the Christian spiritual masters from Cassian onwards and most seemed to be unattached (living in or moving between religious communities), or let those attachments go, e.g. Augustine. Similar comments apply to the Buddha (walked out on family) of the Sufi mystic Ibn Arabi.Is there a lesson here, that spiritual enlightenment is not pursued 'en familie'?In friendship Rupert See More
Rupert Booth replied to Rupert Booth's discussion 'Universalism as a means to social harmony'"Forrest
I agree that in a small society, for example a village, college or small company, then social disharmony may flow from the lack of peace of mind of individuals rather than vice-versa. However for larger societies it seems that an averaging…"
"Well, it's way difficult to suggest that someone get in touch with something/someone their world-view has no room for. Most people aren't at all happy with the idea that their world-view could be missing anything significant...
but…"
Michael Jay replied to Rupert Booth's discussion 'Universalism as a means to social harmony'"@Forest -- Ok... I'm going to say -- I'm very much a Theist, but the idea that people need a connection to the Divine pre-supposes that there is a Divine. This leaves out people with a non-theistic world view... its rather difficult…"
"And how about "Before we can hope to have any sort of lasting social harmony, we need to tune into what 'God'/'Allah'/'Big Mind/'The Life of the Universe' (etc) is up to." Where it isn't a matter of…"
Michael Jay replied to Rupert Booth's discussion 'Universalism as a means to social harmony'"(the application of the solution is called genocide)
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Michael Jay replied to Rupert Booth's discussion 'Universalism as a means to social harmony'"By the way -- there is -- for me a line between "My view is right"... "Others need to adopt my view, or we cannot have social harmony". The first is... pretty universal (few people approach a conversation assuming they are…"
Michael Jay replied to Rupert Booth's discussion 'Universalism as a means to social harmony'"Your essay scares me, let me try to explain.
I'm rather surprised that the Berber empire expanding into area that was once the Roman Empire (where the Pope had become sort of an Emperor substitute), and the Ottoman Turks, and Arabs…"
Rupert Booth replied to Rupert Booth's discussion 'Universalism as a means to social harmony'"Thank you Kathy for your civility and also Forrest for your insightful comments. I agree that there are many cases where a secular dispute is given a religious ‘frosting’ and Northern Ireland may be such a case, though its…"
Kathy Summers replied to Rupert Booth's discussion 'Universalism as a means to social harmony'"Thank you for your thoughts Rupert. I humbly embrace the ideas you have shared. Kathy"
Jim Wilson replied to Rupert Booth's discussion 'Universalism as a means to social harmony'"Dear Friend Michael:
That was also my experience when I was studying in Japan. Most Japanese people are members of at least one Temple. Most self-identify as Buddhist, but many are both Buddhist and Shinto, and some are…"
"I have no wish to diss thy friends, and am sorry I left you with any impression that I thought anything bad about them.
I can certainly make a reasonable argument that God, "if He is God at all", must bend all paths towards unity…"
Michael Jay replied to Rupert Booth's discussion 'Universalism as a means to social harmony'"By the way, about my friends -- how can friends talk about faith and life without gaining insights? I gained a lot of insights about Christianity from a very-conservative Muslim friend. It is hard to say how much I learned from Jews, and…"
Michael Jay replied to Rupert Booth's discussion 'Universalism as a means to social harmony'"Yes -- you may take my attack as confirmation, if you like. I rather like my friends -- and do not take insults lightly.
Yes, you are being judged. I think it is bigoted and inconsistent to say that 'any path' is right and…"
"The conversations, as described, did not suggest that his friends were sharing or gaining insights by them-- but rather that these people were friends in spite of religious beliefs. That's a good secular way of interacting, but can readily…"
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Spirituality and Solitude
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I have been recently reading or reading about the Christian spiritual masters from Cassian onwards and most seemed to be unattached (living in or moving between religious communities), or let those attachments go, e.g. Augustine. Similar comments apply to the Buddha (walked out on family) of the Sufi mystic Ibn Arabi.
Is there a lesson here, that spiritual enlightenment is not pursued 'en familie'?
In friendship
Rupert
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