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"From the Editor's Desk" - January/February Western Friend

Started this discussion. Last reply by Kirby Urner 2nd month 4. 1 Reply

Friends,Mary Klein has a gift for going to the essence of a concern and expressing it simply and powerfully.I encourage Friends to read…Continue

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Friends, What canst thou say?

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Contribute to Quaker Universalist Fellowship's blog - Themes for 2019

Friends,The Quaker Universalist Fellowship steering committee met in October to develop themes for our work in 2019. We focus on Quaker faith and practice underneath a broad theological umbrella. Overarching questions are:How do we manifest the interaction between faith and practice?How do we make the…See More
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Global Meeting for Worship – Live online Quaker worship

Please join Quaker Universalist Fellowship in our new experiment with live online Quaker worship.Global Meeting for Worship via Zoom web conferencingBeginning Wednesday, March 6, 2019 and each Wednesday thereafter.6-7:00 pm Coordinated Universal Time/Greenwich Mean Time (UTC/GMT) 10:00 am Pacific Time, 11:00 am Mountain 12:00 pm Central, or 1:00 pm Eastern…See More
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Kirby Urner replied to Mike Shell's discussion '"From the Editor's Desk" - January/February Western Friend'
"Good interview of my mom in this issue too."
2nd month 4
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"From the Editor's Desk" - January/February Western Friend

Friends,Mary Klein has a gift for going to the essence of a concern and expressing it simply and powerfully.I encourage Friends to read her essay in the Jan/Feb 2019 issue of Western Friend.Dear Friends:…See More
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Curing and healing

Originally published on The Empty Path: Nonaligned faith and practice in the presentAmerican culture has been fixated from the start on two principles inherited from the 17th century English society that established the colonies: the mandate to cure physical, social, and moral ills, and the primacy of ownership.Whether Puritan, Catholic, or Dissenter, those first immigrants and refugees all thought that they…See More
12th month 3, 2018
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11th month 30, 2018
Mad JW replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Friends, What canst thou say?'
"Sounds GREAT! Butttt- do you know the ONLY True God Jesus served?"
11th month 22, 2018
Kirby Urner replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Friends, What canst thou say?'
"I appreciate the emphasis on doing over seeing.  The language of belief tends to emphasize "vision" (we're spectators) whereas a shared practice is more like "dance" (a sense of being guided, obeying a will, a…"
11th month 20, 2018
Forrest Curo replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Friends, What canst thou say?'
"It's a poor silly belief system that sits in Meeting with folded arm, its body language proclaiming: I won't believe in You; I won't believe in You; You can't make me; You can't make me! There's no obligatory belief…"
11th month 16, 2018
David McKay replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Friends, What canst thou say?'
"Haven't heard about Carse in a lo-ong time! Have you read Finite and Infinite Games? It's amazing."
11th month 16, 2018
marc lambert replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Friends, What canst thou say?'
"So much for the "elevator speech"."
11th month 15, 2018
Keith Saylor replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Friends, What canst thou say?'
"Hello Mike, Yes, your response is helpful. Is the sentence below a valid re-writing of the phrase in the meme based upon your detailed explanation? Original: Quakerism is not a belief system, but a spiritual discipline;… Rewrite: Quakerism is…"
11th month 15, 2018
Mike Shell replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Friends, What canst thou say?'
"A good question, Friend Kieth. I take my definition of belief system from James P. Carse (see my 2008 blog post "Weeds (Part II)"): I wander the illusory boundary between so-called "theist" and "non-theist." My…"
11th month 15, 2018
David McKay replied to Mike Shell's discussion 'Friends, What canst thou say?'
"Of course:  once we start having the conversation about what Quaker-ism is we start participating in a belief system. This includes statements like: it is a way (a set of practices) and not an -ism. IMHO this is less about whether we have/are a…"
11th month 15, 2018

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About Me
Writer, editor, photographer. Retired prison counselor and librarian. Married to Jim Gleaton under the care of Columbia (SC) Friends Meeting on December 17, 1994. Christocentric-Universalist Friend, deeply informed by Buddhist and Pagan traditions.

Clerk of Jacksonville (FL) Friends Meeting and recording clerk for Southeastern Yearly Meeting executive committee. Editor of Quaker Universalist Conversations, blog of the Quaker Universalist Fellowship.
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Global Meeting for Worship – Live online Quaker worship

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Please join Quaker Universalist Fellowship

in our new experiment with live online Quaker worship.

Global Meeting for Worship

via Zoom web conferencing

Beginning Wednesday, March 6, 2019

and each Wednesday thereafter.…

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Curing and healing

Posted on 12th mo. 3, 2018 at 12:30pm 0 Comments

Originally published on The Empty Path: Nonaligned faith and practice in the present


American culture has been fixated from the start on two principles inherited from the 17th century English society that established the colonies: the mandate to cure physical, social, and moral ills, and the primacy of ownership.

Whether Puritan, Catholic, or…

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Ignore the news cycle. Cooperation is hardwired.

Posted on 11th mo. 4, 2018 at 4:00pm 0 Comments

Republished from The Empty Path: Nonaligned faith and practice in the present.


There ain’t no good guys, there ain’t no bad guys.

There’s only you and me and we just disagree. — Dave Mason

What is it we all fear? We fear what our culture—or, rather, whatever part of our culture we pay attention to—tells us…

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At 8:11am on 5th mo. 14, 2015, Forrest Curo said…

Yeah, I'd been afraid I'd sounded unduly harsh, when I'd basically meant that there's a lot to Jesus-as-was that really hasn't entirely fit into anybody's book so far. & that much of the add-on stuff is also in character, & serves to develop our understandings. Some of the best interpretation I've found was by people who got the history wrong or just didn't care abt that end!

At 4:24pm on 11th mo. 22, 2014, Keith Saylor said…

Hello Mike, 

Thank you for your response to my questions on the Recovering History thread. It is much appreciated. I'm writing to you here because I had no thoughts to share that would further the specific discussion. 

Your closing words caught my attention:

My sense is that the driving motive Quaker faith in action is always this:

I must take care of my neighbor and refuse to comply with the hurtful policies of those in power anywhere--regardless of whether I change the actions of those in power.

I spent time with these words because they did not hit my mind cordially, and I was lost as to why. Slowly, the sense of it manifested in the resilience of silence. 

Presence is the motivation. Direct experience is Quaker faith in action. The direct, immediate experience of Christ's presence is the Principle; outward principles or rationalized conceptual constructs, abstractions such as care for neighbors or resistance to statist imposition, is outside of Presence itself. I am Presence and do not reference outward ideologies, theologies, principles, etc. as sources of motivation. If I help my neighbor or if I do not help my neighbor I do so in the direct experience and light of the inward Principle; anchored within conscious and informing conscience. In the Light their is no reflection upon or identity with and through the outward ideologies or principles. There is pure action in the freedom of the unrefracted light within ... Here the self-conscious ego, anchored in Presence, acts without predictions and in complete freedom without reference (without looking back on outward thoughts). This is Quaker faith in action.

I write this not in the expectation that these words are cordial to your mind or with any expectation that you agree with them. I appreciate you sharing your "sense" because, in doing so, you have helped me push through to a deeper walk in Presence.

 
 
 

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