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Kevin-Douglas Olive
Kevin-Douglas Olive
  • 39, Male
  • Baltimore, MD
  • United States
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Mackenzie commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
BTW, that my boyfriend does not wear a tie (considering it frippery) makes him unusual on the Hill. He says the waistcoat has a practical use (makes everything fit his body better without having to buy expensive "fitted" shirts or spend on…
12th month 5, 2011
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Mackenzie commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
(Urban DC person here) My boyfriend dresses in a way that I consider to be the guy-equivalent of what Quaker Jane calls "modern plain".  He has 8 pairs of black trousers (the 8th to be worn when laundering the other 7), 8 button-up…
12th month 5, 2011
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Joseph Stalnaker commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
This is a very interesting post which touches on a subject that has affected me most significantly in regards to dressing plain.  Job.  Where and what do you work at?  If you are to dress in the historic manner of culturally unique…
11th month 10, 2011
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catherine shaw shanley commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
I agree with Bridget...we are called to plain dress  because we need it! Whether we are brave enough to answer the call is another matter. I think your letter was beautiful.... and I wish you much joy in your journey.
11th month 8, 2011
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Bridget Casterline commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
My thoughts on plain dress are that those of us who are called to it are those of us who need it.  So I do what's needed and trust God to have chosen the right path for me.  He's got a better track record than I do, anyway. ;-)
11th month 7, 2011
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Dr. Bruce R. Arnold commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
Kevin-Michael, I found it helpful to take it as a journey. I didn't jump in all the way at once. I started with what was simple and what worked well for me in my lifestyle, which happened to be shirts and pants. As outer garments were retired,…
11th month 5, 2011
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Kevin-Douglas Olive commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
Thank you so much everyone for your thoughts.  "Testing" is the very thing I've been doing. I have this black, broad brimmed had that I have had for over a decade. I wore it a few times with my late partner (he had one too) to…
11th month 5, 2011
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ben schultz commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
Calm down dear, God isn't all that interested in how you dress.
11th month 4, 2011
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Joseph Stalnaker commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
Dressing in the traditional, culturally reminiscent pattern of a Quaker Man and living in a city environment will certainly be a challenge.  If one is topped with a broad brimmed hat, gray or brown shirt and broadfall trousers with suspenders,…
11th month 4, 2011
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Bill Samuel commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
Dear Kevin, Be faithful to your true Teacher. Be concerned with what Dallas Willard calls the Audience of One. That One will be faithful regardless of what those around you think. Be much in prayer, and just how plain is to be for you will unfold in…
11th month 4, 2011
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Alice M Yaxley commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
Dear Kevin-Douglas, thanks for writing, your account is very moving. Bless you! Huge sympathy and I am so glad your partner is supportive too. Precious indeed. God bless.
11th month 4, 2011
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Paula Deming commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
Dear Kevin, If you haven't done so yet, visit Isabel Penraeth's website quakerjane.com. You might feel less alone if you sit with her writings for awhile. Be absolutely sure of your leadings. Test them. Do not rush yourself. Personal goals…
11th month 4, 2011
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Sue Tannehill commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
Dear Kevin Douglas, I am led to say this: Focus on  what you ARE being asked to do and not how others will respond. That's the first guideline for modern plain I think. What do I need to wear to do this task in a Godly way? Planning for…
11th month 4, 2011
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Kristen McLewin commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
Kevin, I'm a plain-dressing Quaker lesbian.  Welcome to my world.  :)  I don't have much time to chat now, but wanted to offer support and some understanding and an invitation to chat.  I don't live in a big urban…
11th month 3, 2011
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Mark Wutka commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Going Plain....'
Kevin,   Some of what you describe sounds similar to one of my reasons for dressing plain. That is, I dress this way so that I stand out, not in a flashy way, but in such a way that I can't blend in with the crowd so easily. It makes me…
11th month 3, 2011
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Forrest Curo commented on Kevin-Douglas Olive's blog post 'Why I bother with religion.'
Well, hello, 'tis worth a wait!   Again, I'm going to quibble, because a quibbler gotta do what a quibbler gotta do!   That quibble is: I don't believe we need to know how anybody is living their lives to "know the…
11th month 3, 2011

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Going Plain....

I feel like I'm coming out of the closet again.  It's actually striking how similar this is to when I started admitting I was gay.  Here and there I would talk about "if" i were gay, or how maybe I'm bisexual.  I would hook up with someone and then rant against homosexuality in Friends Journal or in meeting.  Then I came out, blew the doors off the wall and no Quaker meeting in Greensboro was prepared. Though off topic, I think Friends meetings should very much consider how to be there for…

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Posted on 11th mo. 2, 2011 at 12:51pm — 15 Comments

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Is Baltimore Yearly Meeting Christian ... enough?

Baltimore YM is affiliated with Friends United Meeting which acknowledges Jesus as "Teacher and Lord." Honestly, the number of Friends in BYM who have any relationship with or involvement in FUM is nominal. Few individual meetings offer education about the ministries of FUM. How many African, Latin or Midwestern ministers and elders have been invited to monthly meetings to speak, teach or worship? Do our women participate in United Society of Friends Women or our men with Quaker Men? Do we…
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Posted on 8th mo. 13, 2011 at 7:41pm — 1 Comment

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Update on Seton Hill Friends Worship Group

Hi Friends

Well our small worship group that started over a year ago as a monthly fellowship is now twice-monthly and we're looking at moving to an old meeting house that is currently operated by a community organization. If that happens, our name will change. We are hoping to also find a meeting to take us under their care. It's very exciting. www.setonhillfriends.org

Posted on 6th mo. 29, 2009 at 12:09am

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Why I bother with religion.

We were all driving up Paca Street, just about to turn the corner onto Druid Hill Ave. Destination: home. It was a gorgeous, sunny spring day. All the sounds of the city, the klaxons of impatient drivers, the sirens of cops and firefighters rushing off to help victims or put out fires, real, figurative or just perceived. Of course, with me in the car, the topic of religion arose, the context of which I don't remember. What I do recall, as we turned right onto my street, cherry blossoms blowing… Continue

Posted on 2nd mo. 18, 2009 at 6:22pm — 8 Comments

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Called Out, Called In: Maggie Harrison's Loving Challenge

There is a prophet in our midst, and her name is Maggie Harrison. Rousing many like fire, making my skin itch at being possibly excluded from this club that I don't even belong to, really (when asked if I am a Quaker, I always respond, 'Not yet.'), but want to think I can put on and off like so much-- clothing?And, nakedness. Taking off the mantle of Religious Identity, making space for the un-knowingness of living INTO something, removing armor and scaffold and hard won (or not so hard won)…See More
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Caroline Gulian replied to Elin Hagberg's discussion 'Plain babies and children' in the group Plainness & Simplicity
First of all, Mazel Tov!  Prayers to your pregnancy, may it be a healthy, happy event in your life. With my children, I have raised them with my beliefs, explained why I dress Plain for worship, and leave them with what I have taught in hopes…
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Paula Roberts replied to Elin Hagberg's discussion 'Plain babies and children' in the group Plainness & Simplicity
Congratulations Elin!  I don't have children so I'm going to speculate, but I don't think raising your kids differently from other people is going to injure them at all. Of course I am surrounded by people who are doing that very…
12 hours ago
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Barbara Smith replied to Elin Hagberg's discussion 'Plain babies and children' in the group Plainness & Simplicity
Elin - Congratulations! The bigger question you are raising is how to bring up spiritually healthy children in an unhealthy world! We have nine children and homeschooled all of them right from the start. They are amazing people and I know for a fact…
12 hours ago
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Mackenzie replied to Lauren Smith's discussion 'Parenting as a Friend'
I'm not a parent, so grain of salt ;) I maintain the opinion that setting a good example from the earliest age is what's important. Consistent rules probably have the best chance of being followed. That's not to say "when…
12 hours ago
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Zaley Warkentin replied to Elin Hagberg's discussion 'Plain babies and children' in the group Plainness & Simplicity
My thought would be to provide your child with both options and let them choose day to day... When I was much younger I was dressed both plain and modern, but as I grew older my parents encouraged me to dress mainstream. In my case, I became more…
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I am expecting a baby if everything goes well this summer. I just want to hear if there are any thoughts about teaching and showing the plain way to children. The table is open and I just want to hear what you think about this, is it even possible in today's society to raise children like that?As both me and my partner wear mainly clothes of a modern make we will buy 'normal' clothes for our children but try buy a lot of things second hand or try to swap them with others. When our child is a…See More
Elin Hagberg added a discussion to the group Plainness & Simplicity 13 hours ago
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Daily Bible Reading: Deuteronomy 32 and 1 Corinthians 5

Deuteronomy 32 – The Song of Moses [the number of verses equals the number of letters in the Hebrew alphabet – 23 - times 3. It concludes the teaching books of the Old Testament: “my teaching will fall like drops of rain and form on the earth like dew. My words will fall like showers on young plants, like gentle rain on tender grass” (32:2). From the beginning, the Judeo-Christian vision has been that we humans are here on earth as creations of a “mighty,” “just” and “perfect” God, who seeks…See More
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