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Clerking Advice

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jonathan Betz-Zall 12th month 18, 2012. 8 Replies

Hello Friends,I have accepted the…Continue

Tags: advice, leadership, clerking, clerk

Quaker Structure: Is decentralization good or bad?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ron Bell 5th month 13, 2010. 2 Replies

As a Convinced Friend, I think for me what was the most difficult fact about Quakerism to absorb was the vast amount of decentralization regarding Friendly structure.  Being used to other faiths…Continue

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Kirby Urner commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Why We Can't Hide Behind Our Words'
"I think we miss a lot about Quakerism if we miss the focus on journals and journaling.  There's a reason bookkeepers use the word "journal of accounts" as well: whether the journal is in terms of financial transactions, or…"
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Howard Brod commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Why We Can't Hide Behind Our Words'
"I don't recall you ever using names, Kevin, when you relay a message from worship.  That is a kindness so that 'hot coals' are not heaped upon a Friend.  Certainly, all of us - either verbally or in written form - have…"
1st month 30
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Why We Can't Hide Behind Our Words'
"I am still processing my departure from a Meeting. That's what I was writing about here. But I'm making progress towards acceptance and forgiveness, even though I would prefer to be fully recovered. Over time I've used negative…"
1st month 30
Forrest Curo commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Why We Can't Hide Behind Our Words'
"It's not clear whether you're talking about your previous religious stopover, or your current abode... Also the title is somewhat disconnected. Quakers are supposed to be able to 'stand behind' our words, ie back them up with…"
1st month 30
Christine Manville Greenland commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Why We Can't Hide Behind Our Words'
"Interesting... In times past, ministry was often transcribed and published, particularly when ministers (and elders) were formally recognized. Many of the ministers' journals and memoirs included printed accounts of what they said during…"
1st month 30
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Why We Can't Hide Behind Our Words

At the last stop along my religious journey, I was summoned to meet with the clerk of the Meeting and the alternate clerk. The reason was never expressed until I arrived, and I have to admit that it felt a little like I was being sent to the principal’s office. After I sat down and listened to the argument presented me, I…See More
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Barbara Harrison commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'The Ultimate Sacrifice'
"Now many of us have the courage to recognize the Christ has returned in us?"
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Kirby Urner commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Religion Motivated by Guilt Trip?'
"I do not see shame or guilt as emotions, though they may be associated with emotions.  They're also associated with mental imagery, fantasies, replayed experiences.  I think the word "complex" as in "guilt complex"…"
1st month 21
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The Ultimate Sacrifice

If we are followers of Jesus, are we willing to emulate our Lord at the expense of our very well-being, our health? We know of Christians who are persecuted daily in far flung lands. We know of Friends who were jailed and even killed for their religious daring. Our faith reminds us of the sacrifices of our…See More
1st month 20
Paul Klinkman commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Religion Motivated by Guilt Trip?'
"Rationalists like to think that all human beings operate rationally all the time.  We're actually beings who sometimes have rages of chemical emotions floating around inside us.  Shame is the emotion of helplessness, of giving up, of…"
1st month 18
Kirby Urner commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Religion Motivated by Guilt Trip?'
"Sometimes I use my on-line journals as a front end into interesting but hard-to-find threads such as this one.  Case in point:  http://mybizmo.blogspot.com/2016/01/from-quaker-bbs.html "
1st month 16
Forrest Curo commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Religion Motivated by Guilt Trip?'
"Well, built-in structurally (however that's done) is the inclination to learn stuff like guilt & shame. Given the prevalence of these (more-or-less of one or the other) among human societies, it has to be part of what keeps such societies…"
1st month 14
Kirby Urner commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Religion Motivated by Guilt Trip?'
"I suppose a starting point is to what extent do we think guilt is built-in chemically, like a hormone, versus cultivated as an institution, a complex social practice, like a game.  I know people like to post Youtubes of "dogs looking…"
1st month 14
Forrest Curo commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Religion Motivated by Guilt Trip?'
"Look, shame and guilt have to serve some function within either an individual human or the group he belongs to, or the capability wouldn't be a built-in. That is, most of the time the threat of feeling either one will keep someone within the…"
1st month 14

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Why We Can't Hide Behind Our Words

Posted on 1st mo. 29, 2016 at 10:00am 5 Comments

At the last stop along my religious journey, I was summoned to meet with the clerk of the Meeting and the alternate clerk. The reason was never expressed until I arrived, and I have to admit that it felt a little like I was being sent to the principal’s office. After I sat down and listened to…

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The Ultimate Sacrifice

Posted on 1st mo. 20, 2016 at 10:30am 1 Comment

If we are followers of Jesus, are we willing to emulate our Lord at the expense of our very well-being, our health? We know of Christians who are persecuted daily in far flung lands. We know of Friends who were jailed and even killed for their religious daring. Our faith reminds us of…

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Is Religion Motivated by Guilt Trip?

Posted on 1st mo. 10, 2016 at 5:00pm 12 Comments

The cynic rejects organized religion because of the perceived damage it creates to the believer. The atheist believes in no higher power, no higher authority. The atheist may observe nothing, but the cynic observes everything.

Certain biblical narratives in the life of Jesus could be said to…

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When It's Time to Change Meetings/Churches

Posted on 9th mo. 27, 2015 at 11:30am 0 Comments

I'm not out in this post to air any personal grievances. A Friend told me, in more profane terms, that there are a certain amount of cares one can give about any contentious subject. There comes a time in every person's life where change is necessary, even changing houses of worship. I'm…

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At 10:42am on 7th mo. 20, 2014, Laura Scattergood said…

Please be Patient God isn't Finished with me yet. I hope you will forgive me Kevin.  I really went into an unexpected spasm of grief, around the anniversary of the death of a pre-born child.  I shouldn't have been online or tried to discuss preborn children during that time. The corny line I open this post with hails back to the Jesus Freak days of the 1970s, when people wore buttons and t-shirts saying that.  Of all the silly things we did, maybe that is the one thing that made any sense. Best wishes, and sorry I was such a bee----itch.

At 6:50pm on 8th mo. 26, 2012, Timothy said…

Hello, Kevin!

Thank thee for accepting our invitation! Pray have a great day.

Timothy

At 11:47am on 4th mo. 29, 2010, Martin Kelley said…
Hi Kevin: great to see you here! Thanks for joining and condolences on that bus accident (just read your post), I'd be just as livid!
 
 
 

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