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Clerking Advice

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jonathan Betz-Zall 12th month 18, 2012. 8 Replies

Hello Friends,I have accepted the…Continue

Tags: advice, leadership, clerking, clerk

Quaker Structure: Is decentralization good or bad?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ron Bell 5th month 13, 2010. 2 Replies

As a Convinced Friend, I think for me what was the most difficult fact about Quakerism to absorb was the vast amount of decentralization regarding Friendly structure.  Being used to other faiths…Continue

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Howard Brod commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Thank you Adria.  I love and appreciate your message.  It put needed substance to my message. Kevin, I am so glad you are finding peace and inspiration in your current meeting."
18 hours ago
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Both comments deserve thoughtful replies and I will do my best. I had to work within a system where vocal ministry became ego games, as Howard puts it well. A few speakers dominated Worship week in and week out. The system that existed well before I…"
18 hours ago
Adria Gulizia commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Did the Friend's vocal ministry have the special savor of the Holy Spirit? You say, "As I told him then, he would have been in full compliance with our wishes if he agreed to space out his vocal ministry from week to week. Surely that…"
18 hours ago
Howard Brod commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"I was once part of a meeting where ego games eventually vacated the meeting of cherished Friends.  All of these expectations were rendered with the best of intentions.  This taught me that the Spirit is blind to expectations. All it…"
19 hours ago
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"He may never be ready, and that is unfortunate. But I always hope for the best and hope for positive outcomes."
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Mackenzie commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"You can only control the actions one of you takes."
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Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"In that case, I ask that he respect me enough to not pull the person I'm speaking to at the moment into a separate conversation. So it is a two way street involving the both of us on at least some level."
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Mackenzie commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"He doesn't need to be ready to talk to you on your schedule. It might take a few years of you respecting his boundaries (ie, leaving him alone) before he believes he can trust you enough for a real conversation."
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Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"I really do want to explain myself and give him the opportunity to explain himself. I want to have a dialogue, otherwise things will remain icy between us. And I don't want that to happen. Speaking to my quote, I want to love him. But loving…"
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Mackenzie commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Why? If he doesn't want to talk to you, why force him? It sounds like he's set a boundary. Why push it?"
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Kevin Camp posted a blog post

Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult

Some years back, the committee of which I was clerk decided to Elder a Friend for sharing vocal ministry too frequently. As long-term readers may recall, I aimed to deal as fairly with him as I could, but he took immediate offense and never returned to Meeting again. I wanted to open a free-flowing dialogue based on…See More
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David McKay liked Kevin Camp's blog post Radical Acceptance: When an Attender is a Sex Offender
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Kirby Urner commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Radical Acceptance: When an Attender is a Sex Offender'
"The line between a criminal and medical record is critical as the latter is considered protected by HIPAA etc. whereas a criminal record tends to be a matter of public record, presuming one has enough attorney powers.  Abhorrent behavior…"
5th month 24
Kirby Urner commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Being Good Is Not Enough'
"That's well written Kevin. Having just been to a Seder on Friday night, the Jewish Passover rite, I'm well aware that orthodox Jews are still eschewing leavened bread.  That hot dog I had at Costco yesterday would be a no-no for…"
4th month 25
Kevin Camp posted a blog post

Being Good Is Not Enough

My partner’s mother hails from conservative small town Texas. Now pushing seventy, I’ve heard her tell the same story on numerous occasions. It must have left quite a lasting impression, as I hear it every time I’m visiting family during the holidays. The latest retelling is always delivered with a kind of amused pity.…See More
4th month 25
Howard Brod commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'A Spirited Defense of the Pastoral System'
"Thank you Kevin for this perspective.  Whenever I feel I am sick of other people, I then realize it is actually me with all of my perceptions that I am sick of.  But alas, I am stuck with me.  Yet, I can take or leave other people;…"
4th month 11

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Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult

Posted on 7th mo. 25, 2016 at 9:00am 10 Comments

Some years back, the committee of which I was clerk decided to Elder a Friend for sharing vocal ministry too frequently. As long-term readers may recall, I aimed to deal as fairly with him as I could, but he took immediate offense and never returned to Meeting again. I wanted to open a…

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Being Good Is Not Enough

Posted on 4th mo. 25, 2016 at 1:30pm 1 Comment

My partner’s mother hails from conservative small town Texas. Now pushing seventy, I’ve heard her tell the same story on numerous occasions. It must have left quite a lasting impression, as I hear it every time I’m visiting family during the holidays. The latest retelling is…

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A Spirited Defense of the Pastoral System

Posted on 4th mo. 8, 2016 at 3:30pm 1 Comment

For the sake of full disclosure and complete transparency, let me state for the record my religious past. I was raised, baptized, and confirmed a United Methodist. At the age of seventeen, well into teenage rebellion, I became a heathen Unitarian Universalist. This lasted for…

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Be Cautious with Revolutions

Posted on 3rd mo. 14, 2016 at 2:00pm 1 Comment

A study of the past shows that times of great societal reform often come only from armed combat. This is a disquieting thought to those who espouse non-violence and peaceful reconciliation. The English Civil War led directly to the formation of the Religious Society of Friends. The…

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At 10:42am on 7th mo. 20, 2014, Laura Scattergood said…

Please be Patient God isn't Finished with me yet. I hope you will forgive me Kevin.  I really went into an unexpected spasm of grief, around the anniversary of the death of a pre-born child.  I shouldn't have been online or tried to discuss preborn children during that time. The corny line I open this post with hails back to the Jesus Freak days of the 1970s, when people wore buttons and t-shirts saying that.  Of all the silly things we did, maybe that is the one thing that made any sense. Best wishes, and sorry I was such a bee----itch.

At 6:50pm on 8th mo. 26, 2012, Timothy said…

Hello, Kevin!

Thank thee for accepting our invitation! Pray have a great day.

Timothy

At 11:47am on 4th mo. 29, 2010, Martin Kelley said…
Hi Kevin: great to see you here! Thanks for joining and condolences on that bus accident (just read your post), I'd be just as livid!
 
 
 

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The words "faith" and "belief" are often used interchangeably. Though the two can be related, they…See More
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Howard Brod commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Thank you Adria.  I love and appreciate your message.  It put needed substance to my…"
18 hours ago
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Both comments deserve thoughtful replies and I will do my best. I had to work within a system where…"
18 hours ago
Adria Gulizia commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Did the Friend's vocal ministry have the special savor of the Holy Spirit? You say, "As I…"
18 hours ago
Howard Brod commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"I was once part of a meeting where ego games eventually vacated the meeting of cherished…"
19 hours ago
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"He may never be ready, and that is unfortunate. But I always hope for the best and hope for…"
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Mackenzie commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"You can only control the actions one of you takes."
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Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"In that case, I ask that he respect me enough to not pull the person I'm speaking to at the…"
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