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Clerking Advice

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jonathan Betz-Zall 12th month 18, 2012. 8 Replies

Hello Friends,I have accepted the…Continue

Tags: advice, leadership, clerking, clerk

Quaker Structure: Is decentralization good or bad?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ron Bell 5th month 13, 2010. 2 Replies

As a Convinced Friend, I think for me what was the most difficult fact about Quakerism to absorb was the vast amount of decentralization regarding Friendly structure.  Being used to other faiths…Continue

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Robben Wainer commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Pacifism, Not Passivism'
"Presently in almost reaching fifty I have been torn from my familial priorities and duties. This year I have also become vegetarian, as a devotional practice of my zen Buddhist practice and my Quaker non-violent beliefs. This results in an over…"
10th month 16
Forrest Curo commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Pacifism, Not Passivism'
"The form of Quaker Worship lends itself to people who want simply not to be disturbed for an hour (or afterwards.) If it didn't serve that purpose, it certainly wouldn't be nearly as popular. But it does have another object -- which might…"
10th month 15
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Pacifism, Not Passivism'
"Hello Jim, My final statement about George Fox is to say that he was misunderstood in his time and would be misunderstood today. When I say "troublemaker" I'm being sarcastic by turns, but also taking into account a clueless response…"
10th month 15
Jim Wilson commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Pacifism, Not Passivism'
"I appreciate this post.  The story about the individual who 'ranted' about an activist agenda is one that, I suspect, many can relate to.  One aspect of the activist presence in Quakerism today is this tendency to see the silence…"
10th month 15
Kevin Camp posted a blog post

Pacifism, Not Passivism

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law."For traditional peace churches like Friends, the above passage appears contradictory to our teachings. Jesus is, as we know, described as the…See More
10th month 15
Paul Klinkman commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Justice Denied'
"I'll start with your two sisters' exes -- our society produces far too many angry, unstable people who act out their anger.  The wounds are from many sources but I can name a few:  the moral wounding of soldiers overseas, way too…"
10th month 11
Forrest Curo commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Justice Denied'
"My wife Anne once said: Expecting another person to give something that only God could give you -- could make you come to hate them. The same thought applies to a 'criminal justice system.' Whatever we've grown up expecting from…"
10th month 8
James C Schultz commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Justice Denied'
"As a semi-retired attorney I can tell you looking to our Legal System for Justice is folly.  It's pretty much hit and miss and it's primary usefulness is to prevent anarchy.  At its best we hope its fair and treats everyone the…"
10th month 8
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Justice Denied'
"Thanks, everyone. One of my sisters is in therapy and seems to be making lots of progress. The other feels that therapy is unnecessary. I am not sure what to recommend to her. The decision is her own. Both abusive partners are long gone. Both have…"
10th month 8
Howard Brod commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Justice Denied'
"Hi Kevin, I empathize with your sisters, you, and your family.  I will tell you what I did in a similar situation decades ago with a close relative who suffered horrendous physical, emotional, and psychological abuse at the hands of…"
10th month 8
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Justice Denied'
"I'm going to think this over once more."
10th month 7
Forrest Curo commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Justice Denied'
"Hmmm, how about a deeply concerned, rightly-disturbed but nonviolent brother? Neither Christianity nor the Quaker flavor of that would require you to be anything else. "Honest" is this case seems to be remembering that you aren't a…"
10th month 7
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Justice Denied'
"I mainly want to act as a Quaker, not as an angry family member. Maybe you can keep me honest?"
10th month 7
Forrest Curo commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Justice Denied'
"Your role as a Friend was to pray silently for guidance. I gather that the response to that prayer was an impulse to ask us. We can't "answer" your question either because there's an underlying assumption that you ought to be…"
10th month 7
Kevin Camp posted a blog post

Justice Denied

What follows has been weighing on my heart. I have a bit of a personal quandary that is testing my Quaker faith and my belief in pacifism. I would greatly appreciate your advice and feedback, should you be so led. Any good ideas are taken in good order and with gratitude. You don't have to be a Quaker or even have a belief in any God to state your opinion.The long and short of it is…See More
10th month 7
Kevin Camp posted a blog post

Back-patting Activism, Bandwagon Jumping, and Feminist Thoughts

I know I’m late arriving to the action, but I wanted to reference the recent Emma Watson speech before the UN regarding women’s rights. Watson’s rhetoric, overly simplistic and incomplete as it is, nevertheless implores men to take part in the struggle of women. On this point I do enthusiastically agree with her synopsis. I don’t…See More
10th month 4

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Pacifism, Not Passivism

Posted on 10th mo. 15, 2014 at 8:30am 4 Comments

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law."

For traditional peace churches like Friends, the above…

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Justice Denied

Posted on 10th mo. 7, 2014 at 5:00pm 9 Comments

What follows has been weighing on my heart. I have a bit of a personal quandary that is testing my Quaker faith and my belief in pacifism. I would greatly appreciate your advice and feedback, should you be so led. Any good ideas are taken in good order and with gratitude. You don't have to be a Quaker or even have a belief in any God to state…

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Back-patting Activism, Bandwagon Jumping, and Feminist Thoughts

Posted on 10th mo. 4, 2014 at 10:00am 0 Comments

I know I’m late arriving to the action, but I wanted to reference the recent Emma Watson speech before the UN regarding women’s rights. Watson’s rhetoric, overly simplistic and incomplete as it is, nevertheless implores men to take part in the struggle of women. On this point I do enthusiastically…

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New Voices

Posted on 9th mo. 21, 2014 at 11:30am 3 Comments

What is divinity if it can come

Things to be cherished like the thought of heaven?

Divinity must live within herself:

Passions of rain, or moods in falling snow;

Grievings in loneliness, or unsubdued

Emotions on wet roads on autumn nights;

These are the measures destined for her soul.-



from “Sunday Morning” by Wallace Stevens

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I’m home and not at Meeting. In approximately eight minutes, Worship will begin and I…

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At 10:42am on 7th mo. 20, 2014, Laura Scattergood said…

Please be Patient God isn't Finished with me yet. I hope you will forgive me Kevin.  I really went into an unexpected spasm of grief, around the anniversary of the death of a pre-born child.  I shouldn't have been online or tried to discuss preborn children during that time. The corny line I open this post with hails back to the Jesus Freak days of the 1970s, when people wore buttons and t-shirts saying that.  Of all the silly things we did, maybe that is the one thing that made any sense. Best wishes, and sorry I was such a bee----itch.

At 6:50pm on 8th mo. 26, 2012, Timothy Bruffy said…

Hello, Kevin!

Thank thee for accepting our invitation! Pray have a great day.

Timothy

At 11:47am on 4th mo. 29, 2010, Martin Kelley said…
Hi Kevin: great to see you here! Thanks for joining and condolences on that bus accident (just read your post), I'd be just as livid!
 
 
 

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