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Clerking Advice

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jonathan Betz-Zall 12th month 18, 2012. 8 Replies

Hello Friends,I have accepted the…Continue

Tags: advice, leadership, clerking, clerk

Quaker Structure: Is decentralization good or bad?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ron Bell 5th month 13, 2010. 2 Replies

As a Convinced Friend, I think for me what was the most difficult fact about Quakerism to absorb was the vast amount of decentralization regarding Friendly structure.  Being used to other faiths…Continue

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Chloe Schwenke liked Kevin Camp's blog post Transgender Mom, Cisgender Bullying
8th month 30
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8th month 14
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Donald Trump the Anti-Christ? (No, really)'
"Jesus' remarks remind me of Joan of Arc when on trial for heresy. "Do you know if you are in the grace of God?" "If I am not, may God place me there; if I am, may God so keep me. I should be the saddest in all the world if I knew…"
8th month 6
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Donald Trump the Anti-Christ? (No, really)'
"I follow, Forest. And I never see the tactic as a wimp out. Jesus know the whole time when he would be crucified and where it would be. Why would he go against the will of God and almost certainly condemn himself to death before everything was set…"
8th month 6
Forrest Curo commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Donald Trump the Anti-Christ? (No, really)'
"It was quite definitely rendered for anyone of his time & place. It was also a cunning evasion of a carefully set, quite deadly trap... but not in any sense the sort of wimpout you imply. People of modern times, seeing the matter in terms of a…"
8th month 5
Kevin Camp commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Donald Trump the Anti-Christ? (No, really)'
"By that I mean that his answer was not definitively rendered one way or another. Some see it as merely a lawyer's trick, and it was certainly a way to show that he would not be tricked."
8th month 5
Forrest Curo commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Is Donald Trump the Anti-Christ? (No, really)'
"Jesus was _Not_(!!!) "noncommittal." "Render under Caesar what belongs to him [those little metal idols stamped with his picture and calling him a god] and give God what belongs to God" -- Meant, basically, that nothing…"
8th month 5
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Is Donald Trump the Anti-Christ? (No, really)

Donald Trump is many things to many people, most of them rotten to the core. Thinking people rightly see him as a threat to Democracy and basic decency. But you don't have to go to college or be highly educated to see the threat present in his ascent. I see an electorate that is underwhelmed and even…See More
8th month 5
Kirby Urner commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Quoting myself, sorry about the typo.  Addendum (regarding keeping slates public):  At the regional level, NPYM (North Pacific YM), we are doing a pretty good job of keeping our slate (A) public and (B) up to date.  Here's a link…"
8th month 3
Forrest Curo commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"I think Keith's objection was that Howard Brod was not talking about a meeting being 'unstructured' so much as 'structured by the Spirit on an ongoing basis.' Where people aren't in agreement over "Who's most…"
8th month 3
Adria Gulizia commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"I had just the same "Animal Farm" thought, Bill!"
8th month 3
William F Rushby commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Hello, Adria!  I particularly resonate with "structurelessness becomes a way of masking power, and ...is usually most strongly advocated by those who are the most powerful (whether they are conscious of their power or not)." I…"
8th month 3
William F Rushby commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Hey, Keith!  There is no point in continuing this dispute.  I hereby opt out!"
8th month 3
Keith Saylor commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"Okay. So, you admit that the cite has bearing on the context of your disscussion with Howard specifically? However, it was not your intent to post the cite in specific reponse to your specific discussion with Howard? Do I understand you correctly?"
8th month 3
Adria Gulizia commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"I just started looking at the article, Bill. Wow - great stuff. This particularly stood out: This is part of how descent into a spiral of conflict gets started in groups, including some meetings. Thanks for this. "
8th month 3
William F Rushby commented on Kevin Camp's blog post 'Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult'
"I cited the article because it is excellent, and certainly has a bearing on the issues being discussed.  I did not direct the citation specifically at Howard or his meeting."
8th month 3

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How It Should Have Gone (The Proper Way to Resolve Concerns)

Posted on 9th mo. 2, 2016 at 8:30pm 1 Comment

I write again about the best way a contentious situation in a Meeting might be resolved. It's easier to use myself as an example. Below is one way that Meeting concerns might best be resolved, concerns best put aside as responsibly as possible, with a minimum of hurt feelings…

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Is Donald Trump the Anti-Christ? (No, really)

Posted on 8th mo. 5, 2016 at 12:49pm 5 Comments

Donald Trump is many things to many people, most of them rotten to the core. Thinking people rightly see him as a threat to Democracy and basic decency. But you don't have to go to college or be highly educated to see the threat present in his ascent. I see an electorate that…

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Keeping the Faith When Dialogue Is Difficult

Posted on 7th mo. 25, 2016 at 9:00am 45 Comments

Some years back, the committee of which I was clerk decided to Elder a Friend for sharing vocal ministry too frequently. As long-term readers may recall, I aimed to deal as fairly with him as I could, but he took immediate offense and never returned to Meeting again. I wanted to open a…

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Being Good Is Not Enough

Posted on 4th mo. 25, 2016 at 1:30pm 1 Comment

My partner’s mother hails from conservative small town Texas. Now pushing seventy, I’ve heard her tell the same story on numerous occasions. It must have left quite a lasting impression, as I hear it every time I’m visiting family during the holidays. The latest retelling is…

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At 10:42am on 7th mo. 20, 2014, Laura Scattergood said…

Please be Patient God isn't Finished with me yet. I hope you will forgive me Kevin.  I really went into an unexpected spasm of grief, around the anniversary of the death of a pre-born child.  I shouldn't have been online or tried to discuss preborn children during that time. The corny line I open this post with hails back to the Jesus Freak days of the 1970s, when people wore buttons and t-shirts saying that.  Of all the silly things we did, maybe that is the one thing that made any sense. Best wishes, and sorry I was such a bee----itch.

At 6:50pm on 8th mo. 26, 2012, Timothy said…

Hello, Kevin!

Thank thee for accepting our invitation! Pray have a great day.

Timothy

At 11:47am on 4th mo. 29, 2010, Martin Kelley said…
Hi Kevin: great to see you here! Thanks for joining and condolences on that bus accident (just read your post), I'd be just as livid!
 
 
 

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