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Started this discussion. Last reply by Forrest Curo 9th month 23, 2016. 18 Replies

There is a need for Quakers in Charlotte with the message of the complete sufficiency of the inward Light to guide and rule human life and relationships. This message can offset the destructive…Continue

2016 Presidential Campaign - An article at Politico.

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I appreciate the thoughtfulness of this assessment of the 2016 presidential campaign published at Politico.On The Ideas of Donald Trump.…Continue

From: The Ear of the Soul ...

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I noticed this post after following a link posted in the Daily Pick section of this website. It has captivated my attention and thought some of you who haven't read it, might find it as edifying as I…Continue

M w wting in San Francisco Area?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Keith Saylor 4th month 6, 2015. 4 Replies

I'm in San Francisco for a few days. Any suggestions for a Meeting in the area. Unprogrammed or programed.

 

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Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"Ellis … I am the Life itself in itself and the Life is in my conscious and conscience. That Life is sufficient in itself to guide and admonish without regard for the outward admonishments of others. You have admonished (to use your own word)…"
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Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"Howard, Thank you for your spiritual quickening and fellowship. The discussion on this thread has been edifying and encouraging. Among the many considerations, the separation that Ellis expressed between “I am the Light” and “the…"
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Kirby Urner commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'The Line You Shall Not Cross'
"The outward weapons of this protectorate are religious and political ideology, theology, tradition, similitudes, practices, etc. Keith and I tend to end up with different meanings for inward versus outward weapons. I consider the latter to be aimed…"
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Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"Hey Forrest. God has told me to tell you that you are of a dark, decieved, and proud, spirit. If you do not agree with me then it naturally follows that you are blinded by darkness and are deceived and reject God. Because if you dismiss what God has…"
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Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"Dark and boisterously proud? Again, you cannot let go of that spirit of denigration and disparagement. Offer an olive branch and she passes you a cup a acid with a bet sugar for taste."
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Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"“If you knew the love of God, he in his infinite love and wisdom, would give you of himself. You could then give more to the world than your six-point catechism, repeated ad nauseum, which glorifies yourself and not your…"
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Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"Patricia wrote: "Silly man, who gives up his joy, his image of God, in which life is a blessing: gives up all that is good to life for what: a little castle, a little "protectorate" in which he can sit as king, opposing God and…"
5th month 23
Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"There is a line set down by other people relative to a person’s relationship with and participation in immanent Presence. This line or wall is heavily guarded and fortified by the protectorate of outward forms. The outward weapons of this…"
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Keith Saylor posted a blog post

The Line You Shall Not Cross

There is a line set down by other people relative to a person’s relationship with and participation in immanent Presence. This line or wall is heavily guarded and fortified by the protectorate of outward forms. The outward weapons of this protectorate are religious and political ideology, theology, tradition, similitudes, practices, etc. The nuclear weapon of the protectorate is the abstracted “God” who speaks to them and tells them how to direct and lead others so that to not follow the…See More
5th month 23
Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"History —- Early in the history of the Children of Light it happened that a man among them (and those who followed him) made it known that God had told him to recommend certain institutional forms and practices to the whole of the gathering.…"
5th month 22
Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"“(1.) You shall surely not die if you eat the bread of this world. and (2.) By every word that proceeds from the mouth of God shall man live. You cannot choose one without rejecting the one not chosen. And in that choice, you "judge"…"
5th month 21
Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"Hello Ellis, I affirm, I am the Light and the Light is in me. As I indicated to you previously, by the power of direct participation in the Light itself in itself, I am guided and informed. I do not look the you or George Fox or anyone else for…"
5th month 20
Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"Ellis, I take ownership of and identify with the Life itself in itself. The Life is in me and I am the Life. I am of the Life itself and the Life is of me. I am the Life and the Life is discovered unto me and I too unto the Life. I do know and…"
5th month 18
Keith Saylor commented on Ellis Hein's blog post 'True Christians: How Do You Know Them?'
"I am come into the Life itself in itself and participate in it directly without regard for outward rationalizations and the words and letters of others. I am the Life itself which is discovered immanently. This is immanent will experienced directly…"
5th month 18
Howard Brod commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'I am in the Room with you.'
"I often have a need to render the posts of others into a classic prose format so that I can be swept away with the spiritual depth and beauty of their words.  I was moved to do so with Keith's post entitled: I am in the room with you and I…"
5th month 14
Keith Saylor commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'I am in the Room with you.'
"Dear Howard. This immanent life we share and directly participate in experientially during worship and in daily life ,changes the very foundation of our consciousness. We are no longer predicated ... we are and I am in itself. What a blessing to be…"
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The Line You Shall Not Cross

Posted on 5th mo. 23, 2017 at 8:30am 1 Comment

There is a line set down by other people relative to a person’s relationship with and participation in immanent Presence. This line or wall is heavily guarded and fortified by the protectorate of outward forms. The outward weapons of this protectorate are religious and political ideology, theology, tradition, similitudes, practices, etc. The nuclear weapon of the protectorate is the abstracted “God” who speaks to them and tells them how to direct and lead others so that to not follow the… Continue

I am in the Room with you.

Posted on 5th mo. 8, 2017 at 2:46pm 4 Comments

I am in the room with you and I am within you. Most speak about me rather than speaking me directly and in immediacy. Speak my name … I am … and there I am. To speak about me … to reflect upon me … is to turn from who I am and who you are in me to focus on shadows. Do not look for me through the written and spoken reflections, writings, and preaching of those who set themselves up as your teacher or elder. I am your teacher and elder and there is no other before me. Look and call upon me … I am… Continue

In the Name Is Freedom from the flawed nature.

Posted on 4th mo. 22, 2017 at 4:54am 0 Comments

I am sufficiency in itself to guide and teach you. When I am you and you are me all outward forms are laid down. I am then no longer an object to look at and rationalize and preach about. I am living being present in you in all things and in me outward prescriptions and creeds and those who teach them are of no value. They are of the old flawed nature. Do not look for me in the past or sometime in the future. Such is of the flawed nature. I am come again in this moment and I am present with you… Continue

Speak the Name itself in itself and not about the Name

Posted on 4th mo. 12, 2017 at 10:15am 0 Comments

I am the answer. I am the way. I am with you as you write and ruminate. Speak my Name before rationalizing and intellectualizing. Rest in my Name and own who I am. Say me, speak me, and I am there in your conscience and conscious. I am ever Present within you. I am immanent. Just speak my Name ... I am ... right now ... just speak it as you read it. Say ... I am ... rest in and own who I am. It is in the speaking and calling that I am manifest Light. Lay down rationalizations and simply speak… Continue

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At 9:11am on 12th mo. 8, 2016, Forrest Curo said…

As some of the older people in my Meeting would have said, "Perhaps the message was not addressed to [me]."

At 12:03am on 12th mo. 7, 2016, Forrest Curo said…

For a beginning, he's misread what Jesus was talking about and misinterpreted the purpose of the young man's question. Later on, he gets caught in a misleading dichotomy between someone's idea of liberal individualism vs someone's idea of community authority; the truth is seldom anywhere near a dichotomy, neither on an end nor in the middle, but simply somewhere else. He seems to end up hoping that "capitalism" (wherever _that_ might be found!) may be a loose enough system to leave more room for following Christ -- another great confusion of irrelevancies and what transcends all that... stuff. It isn't that some people think too much; but quantity is never a substitute for quality. Theology should never be abandoned to theologians, 'armchair' or any other sort -- but no doubt God forgives us our efforts.

At 8:48pm on 12th mo. 6, 2016, Forrest Curo said…

Thanks for the question. It looks to me to be another example of someone intelligently missing the point -- but right now I don't have time to finish it; my wife likes me to rest her eyes by reading to her before we meditate. More later, I hope, after I'm done reading & digesting...

At 12:03pm on 3rd mo. 2, 2016, Kirby Urner said…

Thanks for your comments Keith.  It's not either / or right? 

Some brands of Quaker want to invent institutions as an expression of their faith, whereas others wish God's native intelligence to shine through, leaving it more to the Spirit to do the Self organizing. 

The latter approach appears more anarchic from the outside, but the actual participants may appreciate a certain Good Order of Friends nevertheless. 

There should be room enough for these various brands of practice.  Quakers are already all over the map in terms of how they present themselves.

At 10:40pm on 12th mo. 11, 2015, William F Rushby said…

I urge you to describe this news item briefly, and provide the URL for other QQ members to read the article.

At 10:30pm on 12th mo. 11, 2015, William F Rushby said…

Keith:  Thanks for calling this to my attention.  I don't believe it's right to have an "edifice complex" but, on the other hand, demolishing that piece of Quaker history and area history strikes me as being unnecessary and very sad. Sue Hewes, from the Poplar Ridge Meeting, was in our college Young Friends Fellowship.

At 12:32pm on 11th mo. 18, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Thanks for the report.  I can certainly see how being involved in the discussions on QuakerQuaker would be a distraction.  I look forward to having the fruit of your labor in the Light available.

At 11:10am on 11th mo. 18, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Keith, I miss hearing from you.  I suspect my computer has lost contact with yours, again.  The last thing I have on your page is, "Thanks Forrest and Diane. I really needed that. :-)"  Hope the connection comes back, again,  soon.  It just came back apparently spontaneously last time.

At 6:36pm on 8th mo. 5, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Keith, no I’m not a member, though, I’m continually experimenting with Light and have the good fortune to gather regularly with people who are also doing so.  Not all have come to the practice through Quakerism; some wound up checking us out through reading about Friends and stayed because they found what they were looking for.  Because of our lack of interest in the outward forms, we are an enigma to the yearly meeting.  The people now constituting the local meeting have brought it to a new place.

 

In reading Rogers two letters to Fox I seem to be getting a glimmer of what you’re referring to.  I feel his groaning as he wrestles with how things came to this point. Particularly that Fox had moved on from the message of the Light in their conscience available to move and guide them to needing outward forms to structure them.  And desiring with all his heart for Fox to say his intentions were being misrepresented by his followers.  Also, the pain of having Fox not answer him directly, but continuing to accuse Rogers of having left his first love and then Fox not responding at all.

At 3:47pm on 8th mo. 2, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Keith, I agree with your assessment of the nature of Wilkinson’s spirit and Fox’s in their letters.  Even Wilkinson’s conciliatory tone isn’t keeping me from wearying of the abundance of words being sent back and forth.  I’m not feeling Presence speaking through them. 

 

Gathering together for communion with Presence and going forth in Presence to care for the widows and orphans, feed the hungry, give water to the thirsty and visit those in prison is what energizes me.

 

I would be interested in hearing what you think of Rex Ambler's “Experiment with Light.”  Are you familiar with it?  The web address is http://www.experiment-with-light.org.uk/.

 
 
 

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