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Quietism Group?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jim Wilson 1st month 3, 2011. 6 Replies

Dear Friends: I'm interested in starting a group here at QuakerQuaker on quietism.  The focus would be on the quietist insights of the Quaker tradition and recovering that focus.  I'm personally…Continue

Hugh Turford and Quietism

Started this discussion. Last reply by David Carl 8th month 11, 2010. 1 Reply

Good Friends: In my ongoing search for Quietist Quaker works the name of Hugh Turford has come up.  He seems to have been an advocate of silence, in a pure sense, and an articulate spokesman for a…Continue

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On Voting or Not Voting

Started this discussion. Last reply by David Carl 6th month 30, 2010. 3 Replies

Good Friends: I was reading some online history of the Quakers and came across a passage where the author said that in the dispute between the Gurneyites and the Wilburites, Gurney urged his audience…Continue

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Quakers Against Cheap Alcohol in Britian

Started 5th month 27, 2010 0 Replies

Good Friends: I thought people here might be interested in this article which was posted at the British site called Ekklesia.  It's about a Quaker group seeking to stem the widespread availability of…Continue

 

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Jim Wilson commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"Patricia, thanks for the post.  It will take some time for me to read it and then respond.  Thanks for taking the time to track down these quotes and sources."
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Patricia Dallmann commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"Corrections: In the first reason that Whitehead  gives for why Platonists do not exalt Christ as mediator betwixt God and men, there is a typo: "so untied to our minds" should read "so united to our minds." And second, the…"
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Jim Wilson replied to Howard Brod's discussion 'Mysticism: The 'Engine' of liberal Quakerism (anonymous article from a Quaker library)' in the group Liberal Quakers
"Hi Keith: The question of influence is a hot one in academic circles these days.  In Plotinus studies there is a dispute about whether or not Plotinus was influenced by Indian sources, such as the Upanishads.  The primary evidence for this…"
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Patricia Dallmann commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"Good morning, Jim:  You asked if early Quakers had any relationships with the Cambridge Platonists. Lewis Benson describes exchanges between Quakers and the Cambridge Platonists in his essay "Prophetic Quakerism," in the section…"
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Patricia Dallmann commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"Good morning, Jim: You asked if the Quakers had any relationships with the Cambridge Platonists. Lewis Benson describes some of the exchanges in his essay "Prophetic Quakerism," in the section titled "The meaning of the coming of…"
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Jim Wilson replied to Howard Brod's discussion 'Mysticism: The 'Engine' of liberal Quakerism (anonymous article from a Quaker library)' in the group Liberal Quakers
"I'll have to read more of Rufus Jones.  I was able to purchase a reprint of Anne Conway's work,'The Principles of the Most Ancient and Modern Philosophy'.  What strikes me as I read your post is how convergent it is…"
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Forrest Curo commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"If you don't ask certain kinds of questions about the Bible, it's easy to take it as meaning whatever it seems to mean for a naive 21st Century reader. Will that make his interpretation more "helpful" to him? Which needs and…"
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Jim Wilson commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"Hi Forrest: I've been thinking about your comment.  It seems simple enough.  But I'd like to suggest that the kinds of questions you raise may not actually be helpful.  For example, why did Emily Dickinson write her poems?…"
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Forrest Curo commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"Certainly it's to the good if you can read some old text in a way conductive to your personal spiritual nourishment. It's also sometimes helpful if you can find out what the author was trying to say, about what, to address what situation…"
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Keith Saylor commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"H Jim (just kidding) I apologize for the delayed response. I needed to spend some time locating the reference in Jones' Book I mentioned. It turns out it was not Sterry I was thinking about, it was Harry Vane, who Jones suggests, was a close…"
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Howard Brod commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"Thanks so much Jim.  I always love your insights!  I especially like this: The above being the case, it is well to remember that like poems and songs different religious writings appeal to different people to different degrees, depending…"
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Jim Wilson commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"Good Morning Howard: I have come to the conclusion that modern people, post-modern people, have lost the ability to read religious texts in a meaningful way.  This became clear to me from my study of the Quietists, particularly Madame…"
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Howard Brod commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"Hi Jim, Thanks for this reminder: This why it is important for us all to remember to go to the Inner Teacher, and not rely on translations of ancient writings as "God's Word".  His word is already written in our hearts if we only…"
6th month 11
Jim Wilson commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"That should be 'Hi Keith', not 'H Keith'."
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Jim Wilson commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"H Keith: As I reread your post you mentioned in passing a dispute between Fox and Sterry.  Does Jones discuss the nature of that dispute?  Was it theological, or more practical?  And does Fox reference Sterry in his Journal or is it…"
6th month 9
Jim Wilson commented on Jim Wilson's blog post 'Cambridge Platonists'
"Friend Keith: Thanks for those references.  I'll have to look up the Jones book; I'm not familiar with it. Here is another fascinating connection: One of the Cambridge Platonists was Anne Conway.  She was greatly admired by More…"
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Cambridge Platonists

Posted on 6th mo. 7, 2017 at 2:55pm 16 Comments

This is an open question to readers here who have a broader knowledge of Quaker history than I do.  I am wondering if the early Quakers had any relationships with the Cambridge Platonists.  I have only recently become aware of them.  Some of their doctrines seem similar to some Quaker perspectives (though admittedly I have at this time read very little).  I have not come across any mention of interaction between Quakers and Cambridge Platonists.  But the timing is right; the Cambridge…

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February Friends Journal Article on Zen Buddhism & Quakerism

Posted on 2nd mo. 15, 2016 at 8:02pm 1 Comment

The latest Friends Journal, February 2016 (page 32), has a thoughtful article by Peter Taylor about the relationship between Zen Buddhism and Quakerism.  The article appealed to me because I have a similar background.  I studied Buddhism of the Zen variety in Korea and Japan and was dedicated to this type of practice for a long time.  At one point I took vows as a Zen monastic.  Because I was raised in a secular household Zen was the first religious tradition that I had experience with. …

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Chris Hedges Writes a Stinging Critique of the Idea of Progress

Posted on 5th mo. 27, 2015 at 11:00am 3 Comments

Greetings:

In a previous blog post on Progressive Quakers I noted that the progressives were fully immersed in the idea of progress; that things will inevitably get better and better.  And it was this idea of progress which allowed the progressives to undermine traditional Quaker Faith and Practice so effectively.  It was also this idea of progress which provided them with conceptual tools for their support of W.W. I.  Chuck Fager in his two books on Progressive Quakers seems to agree…

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Why I'm Not a Progressive Quaker

Posted on 2nd mo. 11, 2015 at 10:30am 25 Comments

Why I’m Not a Progressive Quaker

In 2014 Chuck Fager, a dedicated activist, peaceworker, and Quaker historian, as well as the publisher of the thoughtful journal ‘Quaker Theology’, published two books on the history of Progressive Friends.  One is called Angels of Progress; it is a documentary history of Progressive Friends.  In Angels Fager recovers many significant episodes in the history of the Progressives and the writings wherein they defined themselves and…

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At 10:50am on 2nd mo. 7, 2015, Patricia Dallmann said…

Good morning, Jim.

Thank you for the clear, thoughtful description of two differing editorial approaches to older Quaker writings. It hadn't occurred to me that there was any approach other than the one you first described, as it seems to me to be a primary concern in editing to convey to future readers the quality of the original writing, in content, in style, and in overall sensibility. To subordinate one's own point of view is to respect not only the author but the activities of expression and communication, to affirm their value and even more, at least for the old Quaker writings, the grand enterprise of our human progression towards receiving truth. We rely on those who've come before. Through reading their unadulterated writings, we can stand on the shoulders of giants. I think it's imperative that their bones not be broken, or  their heels too badly bruised.

At 6:57pm on 2nd mo. 6, 2015, Keith Saylor said…

Hi Jim. I appreciate your thoughts on Worthington. I'm still in resource collection mode, however I will be sure to get his material closely.

At 1:58pm on 3rd mo. 1, 2014, Olivia said…

Thanks, Jim.  It sounds like you have your hands full and with a beautiful project too.   I look forward to that resource and to learning more.  I think I feel a growing sense that I'll be one of the "on the ground" folks exploring Quietism in real time as "new" terrain that informs Quakerism.  I am no example of the gifts of Quietism, but I seem to have its experiences and insights nonetheless and this Spirit (that is with many of us leading us in that direction) seems worth our focused awareness -- "this is what this is and what it's terms look like in this or that person".    I have thought of you recently when a women just posted about chronic illness and wondering about Quaker resources for coping with that, and when working with the 10 commandments in this Spirit... something I may post about at a later date.   peace!

At 11:31am on 5th mo. 24, 2012, Paula Deming said…

Thank thee, Jim!

Incidentally, I am a native of Northern California--Davis.

At 1:45pm on 1st mo. 18, 2011, David L. Hoffman said…

 

Hi Jim,

I'm look forward to seeing you soon.  This week would be good for a West County meetup or book store visit.

 
 
 

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