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Your Assignment, Should You Choose To Accept It

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Falling Asleep In Meeting

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"Might I suggest a transcendent Subject who makes up those three partners so we'll have constructive mental toys to play with together, with an occasional holy wow at the sheer mind-boggling overwhelm of Itall?"
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Forrest Curo commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'The Witness that Stunned ...'
"There is a very large thumb on this scale. Whose?"
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Forrest Curo commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'The Witness that Stunned ...'
"Sometimes a person really does have to do what a person's got to do. But if you're taking my words as 'counsel', please do remember that 1) Yes, God's presence is sufficient to guide and protect and/but 2) One needs must…"
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Forrest Curo commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'The Witness that Stunned ...'
"Perhaps you could go to places where people do politic for the construction and use of outward weapons of war?  Sometimes they even say that using these weapons either directly or as means of intimidation is their way of making or keeping peace…"
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Forrest Curo commented on Keith Saylor's blog post 'The Witness that Stunned ...'
"Do you anticipate witnessing soon to people who are seeking peace through dropping bombs on foreigners?"
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Forrest Curo replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Your Assignment, Should You Choose To Accept It'
"I'd think we'd agree with Gandhi that Western Civilization would be a good idea: something that ought to be tried sometime. Meanwhile the somewhat fragmented complex of social machinery we do employ for feeding ourselves and others --…"
7th month 13
Kirby Urner replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Your Assignment, Should You Choose To Accept It'
"You wanna know how Quakers respond so I speak for myself and cite my Good Works; I'm helping bring an end to Western Civilization, and feeling upbeat about it."
7th month 13
Forrest Curo replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Your Assignment, Should You Choose To Accept It'
"Where you read something about despondency I read something about a couple of dangerous situations that are not being addressed nor being taken seriously. I don't know whether thinking about them as realities that exist independently of your…"
7th month 13
Kirby Urner replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Your Assignment, Should You Choose To Accept It'
"I often seem off topic or dabbling in irrelevancies to your thread, it seems to you, is what I think. To review: an article you linked to expressed some despondency over the decline of so-called Western Civilization, asking how Quakers might be…"
7th month 13
Forrest Curo replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Your Assignment, Should You Choose To Accept It'
"If there's a treaty of mice and squirrels, outlawing the use of claws and fangs -- Then the predators of the world, the US chief among them, must surely be wondering where their next meal will come from. I'll hold my jubilation in reserve…"
7th month 13
Kirby Urner replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Your Assignment, Should You Choose To Accept It'
"Our Urner household is in a somewhat jubilant mood these days, as the long awaited Nuclear Weapons Ban Treaty has passed the General Assembly, Iran a chief supporter. The loser nuke head nations say "this doesn't apply to us" and the…"
7th month 13
Forrest Curo replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Your Assignment, Should You Choose To Accept It'
"Diagnosing the people one disagrees with isn't just a bad idea; it's a distraction. The Earth won't care who we like or dislike, won't care whether we guessed right or guessed wrong. When the way you think and feel can make the…"
7th month 13
Kirby Urner replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Your Assignment, Should You Choose To Accept It'
"BTW, I do like Chris Hedges, he's just so doomy gloomy, which I associate with fire and brimstone preachers. Glad to see he's on RT, such a better network than CNN: https://www.rt.com/onair-talent/chris-hedges/ Frances Moore Lappé…"
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Forrest Curo replied to Adria Gulizia's discussion 'Why is talking about God so hard?'
"We may not be "responsible for" how words about God are received; but not care how they're understood would be gravely ir-responsible and unloving. Being recognized as 'a weirdo' is probably less painful than getting chomped…"
7th month 12
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Is There a Role for Spirit-led Sound in Quaker Practice?

Waiting on God is the essential Friends' practice, and we had best not put obstacles between us and the realization of Spirit working in, among, and through us.For this reason, several early Friends were moved to destroy their musical instruments, as distractions from their connection to Spirit.For better or worse Friends can't be Early anymore. Our situation, condition, and practices are not the same, nor should we be the same in any way except in trusting God's love and power to manifest. Our…See More
7th month 11

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Attended one Quaker Meeting ~1961, invited by my best friend in high school. Returned a few times over the decades -> 1991, when I got roped into some pro-homeless activism & felt nostalgic for what I remembered of Friends. Attended regularly awhile, admitted I was a Quaker & therefore had to make it official in 1996. One school year (2002-3) at Pendle Hill, whee! Still knowing God, still being led, still wondering how this all comes out...
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"You don't do it through intellectual processes. What you do is you telepathically tap in to the one great world religion,
which is only one,
which has no name,
and all of the other religions are merely maps of that."

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The Metaphor is the Meaning

Posted on 5th mo. 20, 2017 at 12:33am 0 Comments

You don't do the Bible, or any human being greater honor, or understand them better, by taking them literally.

To take something "metaphorically" doesn't mean that we treat it as just a fluffy literary decoration.

In mathematics there's a term for what a metaphor does: it's called "a mapping." A useful metaphor says that one thing has a similar structure to another thing; they behave alike in analogous circumstances. One of them can be taken as a useful hint toward…

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Truth is a spiritual reality

Posted on 5th mo. 1, 2017 at 3:10pm 4 Comments

The word 'spiritual' gives a lot of people problems, and I'm not going to define it. I'm not even going to claim I understand all that it entails.

But one description that works: "If you can't define something; if you can't reduce it to a combination of some other categories or interactions between them" -- words like say, Truth, Beauty, Love and the like come to mind --

then it very likely is spiritual.

Friends have a lot of trouble with the word 'Truth' anymore. It…

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The Liberal Quaker (Multi)-Dilemma

Posted on 4th mo. 4, 2017 at 10:06am 1 Comment

If a Meeting takes a stand on any significant issue whatsoever it excludes (and temporarily alienates) people who see the matter otherwise.

If a Meeting can not take a stand on matters causing great suffering (and there is always disagreement about these, or someone would have simply corrected them) we seem to fall short of a basic Christian duty.

A possible resolution to this might look like what we did (as I heard it) with the Quaker House in Ulster. Of two warring groups,…

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Truth and vs Love Among Us

Posted on 3rd mo. 26, 2017 at 9:00am 0 Comments

[Thanks to C. Wess Daniels for the nudge!]

People have come to think of a concern for ideas as pathological.

When ideas come to matter more to us than our love for each other, it is pathological.

But people die when the ideas they love and the truths they live under fail to match; bad ideas can kill people as surely as intentional violence.

We have got to resolve our differences; we have truly got to resolve our differences — not smooth them over, not crush them…

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Seeking God's Guidance

Posted on 2nd mo. 11, 2017 at 6:41pm 35 Comments

I first encountered the fact of this in the 1960's, when I was flailing through a life already hijacked by God, reframed by mind-striping drugs, immobilized by conflicting ideas and ideals.

In search of a group I might really belong with, I stayed overnight with people who kept the air thick with pot smoke amid the bewildering sounds of a record I'd never heard of: 'The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter,' by the Incredible String Band. Among many intricate, confusing lyrics, one mad…

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At 3:13pm on 12th mo. 7, 2016, Keith Saylor said…
Thank you Forrest. I appreciate you thoughts. I am enjoying reading this person's perspectives. He writes well.
At 6:45pm on 12th mo. 6, 2016, Keith Saylor said…
At 5:52pm on 12th mo. 10, 2015, Kirby Urner said…

Where am I in QuakerQuaker in replying to a Profile comment?  Sheesh.  Um, we may not take the same Exam.  Don't pretend you can see over my shoulder necessarily.  "How effective an Activist were you?" is maybe the only question on my interview with Jesus, who knows?

At 11:25am on 8th mo. 1, 2015, Keith Saylor said…

Hi Forrest. Thank you. I was particularly struck by your words:

"The idea of anyone being, not 'a liar', but simply mistaken, or seeing from another perspective, seems to be largely inconceivable to the religious worthies of that time... or that, at least, was my impression from a small dose of their pamphlet wars [like very slow internet flame wars, yes?]"

I agree. My impression is that those Children of Light who do not establish themselves in outward leadership positions on either side (to impose an outward form on others) manifest a supple spirit guided by the inward light filling their conscious and informing their conscience so that identity rests firmly in Presence itself is not lost or overshadowed by outward forms such as anger, fear, ideology, institution, tradition, etc. 

The Spirit to impose outward forms and institutions on the consciences others is as alive today as when Wilkinson felt it needful to speak against it just 25 years after the Children of Light gathered in England. On the flipside, the Comforter is as alive today as when the Children of Light gathered together around 1650ish in England. The Light is alive in many of us today filling our conscious and guiding our conscience so that we know the original witness of the Children of Light through direct personal experience of Presence within. What a blessing to know in ever present faith that the Light is eternal and shines within ... a beacon ever before our mind and heart directing our journey in all things and all our activities in daily life. And that the darkness of outward forms, institutions, practices, and traditions, can be overcome in the Light itself.

At 9:38am on 8th mo. 1, 2015, Diane Benton said…

Forrest, those are some keen observations.

"Fox was clearly a man of great faith, but where the mission he hoped to perform for God seemed at risk, it seems as if it was hard for him to trust God's purposes to God... That's been a subtle and powerful test of faith for many of us, yes?"

I agree.

At 7:51am on 5th mo. 14, 2015, Mike Shell said…

Hi, Forrest.

Glad to be connected.  I'm at a library conference till Friday.  I'll be in touch after that.

Blessings,
Mike

At 12:34pm on 12th mo. 11, 2014, Paul Klinkman said…

"side of mountain... warmer than overall atmosphere, same height. flexible tube, held by warmth?"

Yes, side of mountain.  The steeper the hill, the less cost for the chimney for a particular height. 

The air inside is warmer than the overall atmosphere.  Making the air inside hotter increases the power output.  The site engineer picks a particular maximum rated temperature, installs insulation suited for that temperature and the control unit enforces that maximum temperature.  Solar hot water control units already do this.

The Manzanares experiment was 600 feet high.  A chimney of 3,000 feet was once proposed. 

A flexible tube puffed out by the warmth is one option.  If so, the turbine would be at the top of the tube.  A flexible tube with air-filled ribs would stay puffed out.  From a minimizing the air pressure standpoint, putting the turbine halfway up the chimney puts only half the stress on the chimney.  The positive  pressure would be highest just below the turbine and the negative pressure would be highest just above the turbine.  The final option is a non-flexible chimney built out of concrete/whatever or a chimney with a solid (dirt?) bottom and flexible tent top.  Yes, tent poles are allowed inside the chimney if they don't cause too much air friction.

On my to do list, put a proposal together for Allete Clean Energy, not too bad an outfit.

At 8:22pm on 2nd mo. 12, 2014, Steve Bradley said…

Hi Forrest!

I have just accepted your "friend" invitation......but I should just let you know that I am a lousy friend -- if Facebook is an indicator.  A loving acquaintance set up a FB site for me about five years ago, and a couple of loving family members periodically install new photos, but I pay scane attention to it.  Not only am I perplexed by the technology, but the zippity-doo-dah nature of FB just depresses me.  Hopefully, however, i will do much better at following the conversation here; that's the plan, anyhow!

At 10:48am on 1st mo. 7, 2014, Jon Watts said…

Thanks for the friend request!  Blessings on your musical endeavors!  :)

At 11:35pm on 8th mo. 5, 2013, Forrest Curo said…

The site is for ongoing commentary. It needs bright and honest people to comment on the Bible verses, people who won't either wallow in uncritical acceptance or automatically dismiss them -- but take an open look at why they're there and why they're the way they are, whether for 'all-too-human' purposes or God's.

Since you'd written about having to fight yourself free from dogmatically-imposed interpretations of the Bible and to see what you could find in it by yourself, I hoped you might still be interested. My wife & I spent a few months attending the weekly Torah study at a good synagogue; and it seems to be a different sort of experience when people can just say what comes to them about a passage. (More people would be [potentially] even better...)

 
 
 

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"There is a very large thumb on this scale. Whose?"
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