"You could look at Amelia Mott Gummere, *The Quaker: A Study in Costume*. The author is prejudiced against plainness, so one would have to keep that in mind.
Also, see Stephen Scott, *Why Do They Dress That Way*, a more balanced…"
"I think that there is a very strong desire to see the female in God. The diafication of Mary of by the Catholic church was, in part a response to people resistance to giving up their godesses.
Personally, it's not a compelling issue in my…"
"I agree that it is good to remember the women and men who have followed Jesus. But it's important, as you say, to not elevate them to a special status. Those who have been faithful in the past are examples of what we should be. If they were…"
"I find the story of Mary inspiring for the reasons you and others have said. I find Mary Magdalen even more so, especially if you see her as the woman who anointed Jesus. The Marys stayed with him until the end, and I believe Jesus was often talking…"
I'm interested in the connection between Mary and goddess worship--it has been said we have paganism and goddess worship entering into Quakerism because people are hungry for embodied ritual (beyond silent worship) and hungry for…"
"Veneration of Mary has generally functioned as a way to absorb goddess worship into Christianity. Although I can't vouch for the accuracy of this, I remember reading that most sightings of Mary occurred at sites sacred to pagan goddesses. She…"
"As for early Quakers, I recall reading one mention by Robert Barclay of the "Blessed Virgin Mary". Not sure where it was. He was educated by Catholics, so this may reflect it.
I think it's important to regard Mary, or any saint from…"
"Yes, she had the choice of not believing god, but not about the baby as I see it. She was pregnant and in that time a woman could not just get a job and support the baby herself like you can today. Therefore I see her choice as being quite…"
"If I remember my church history correctly, Mary didn't get elevated to such importance in the Roman Catholic Church until decades after George Fox. As a result, it is not surprising that Fox didn't mention Mary very much. What is obviously…"
"I guess I don't see Mary needing to be singled out for more focus. However, I believe that we should focus a little more on: "Male and Female he created them," (Genesis 1); The influence of Mary and Joseph on Jesus' upbringing;…"
As I was saying, it isn't necessarily everybody's "faith tradition." Many people deny "Christianity" because it's always come with some suspect baggage--while the essence has been too subversive for its supporters to handle. & yeah, it may be easier for many people to die for a belief than to risk embarrassment for it. (I'm lucky; I'm always embarrassing myself anyway!)
Anyway, please blurt more here; I shouldn't have to do it all!
Your last comment reminded me: "
This is what you shall do:
Love the Earth and sun and the animals.
Despise riches. Give alms to everyone that asks.
Stand up for the stupid and crazy.
Devote your income and labor to others.
Hate tyrants. Argue not concerning God.
Have patience and indulgence toward the people.
Take off your hat to nothing known or unknown
Or to any man or any number of men... Re-examine all
You have been told at school or church or in any book.
Dismiss whatever insults your own soul , and
Your very flesh shall be a great poem."
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