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H(2)O

Started this discussion. Last reply by Keith Saylor 10th month 13, 2014. 3 Replies

How do a trinity of gas molecules, two of hydrogen and one of oxygen, under the correct condition become a new substance? The same way that an elder and overseer, along with a prophetic minister, in…Continue

Tags: Prophetic-Stream

The Juggernaut

Started this discussion. Last reply by Forrest Curo 10th month 5, 2014. 1 Reply

As world travel seems to be the impetus for invasive species of fish plaguing our waterways, world religions have introduced the Juggernaut into Quakerism's prophetic stream. A terrible toll is…Continue

Tags: ThrownUnderTheBus

Fanaticism

Started this discussion. Last reply by Forrest Curo 9th month 23, 2014. 15 Replies

Just as the opposite of love is indifference, not hate; so the opposite of openness to divine guidance is religious fanaticism. Robert A. Johnson, a Jungian analyst, writes in "Owning Your Own…Continue

Tags: MonsterInc.

Quaker Scissorhands

Started this discussion. Last reply by Forrest Curo 9th month 15, 2014. 6 Replies

To quote Samuel D. Caldwell in "The Inward Light": In effect, it(pseudo-universalism) denies all religions by affirming all equally and embracing none.Continue

Tags: Fencing-For-Friends

 

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Keith Saylor replied to Clem Gerdelmann's discussion 'H(2)O'
"Gather to me in all things. I am elder, overseer, and prophet. I am the substance; the thing itself. I am Meeting. I am ripening. In me, the condition is met."
10th month 13, 2014
Clem Gerdelmann replied to Clem Gerdelmann's discussion 'H(2)O'
"Giant-like, the spiritual fruit of American Quakerism is harvested unripe, and at a greater cost to each."
10th month 12, 2014
Patricia Dallmann replied to Clem Gerdelmann's discussion 'H(2)O'
"How comes there to be an  elder, an  overseer, a prophetic minister? When each has thirsted for righteousness, tasted the water of life, and gathered at the river."
10th month 11, 2014
Clem Gerdelmann posted a discussion

H(2)O

How do a trinity of gas molecules, two of hydrogen and one of oxygen, under the correct condition become a new substance? The same way that an elder and overseer, along with a prophetic minister, in spiritual righteousness form the life-sustaining Quaker Meeting?!See More
10th month 11, 2014
Clem Gerdelmann replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Why Most People Are Stuck in Loops?'
"I put a post entitled "Loop the Loop" on The Springfield Patch(www.springfield-pa.patch.com) when I was just starting to think that I might have some insights from which others might benefit. Thanks for correcting/explaining my…"
10th month 7, 2014
Clem Gerdelmann posted a blog post

The Case of Inclusive vs. Exclusive

Inc.: As "that of God" applies to all people, so the Court of Quaker Opinion supports the inclusive nature of Quakerism.Exc.: Then why the designation "Society", which derives from the Latin "partner, or companion"?Inc.: We are a collective, or corporate, body of seekers.Exc.: Never having graduated from "University", which derives from the Latin "collective, or crowd".Inc.: Then we should change from being seen as a company to broadening our reach as a corporation.Exc.: Getting rid of that…See More
10th month 6, 2014
Forrest Curo replied to Clem Gerdelmann's discussion 'The Juggernaut'
"Probably air travel (and certainly military aviation) should be outlawed some time ago. Meanwhile, as Destroyers of the Earth go, it's likely that Quaker grannies en route to visit grandchildren or to see the wonders of Eygpt or to bring…"
10th month 5, 2014
Clem Gerdelmann posted a discussion

The Juggernaut

As world travel seems to be the impetus for invasive species of fish plaguing our waterways, world religions have introduced the Juggernaut into Quakerism's prophetic stream. A terrible toll is exacted when Friends sacrifice themselves to insatiable longing for something other than what we have, as given.See More
10th month 5, 2014
Forrest Curo commented on Clem Gerdelmann's blog post 'The Case of Invest vs. Divest'
"To do business with Caesar you need lots of those little portraits of him, which you can collect from many many employees of Minions of Evil Inc, or alternately from a few people who've chosen the right parents and then invested their loot in…"
9th month 29, 2014
Clem Gerdelmann posted a blog post

The Case of Invest vs. Divest

Invest: Respecting the return on investment favored by the Court of Quaker Opinion, we put our money where our mouth is.Divest: Helping the powerless to have a place at a politically-bankrupt table; the uneducated to get non-union wage jobs; and the disenfranchised to be assimilated into a culture of spending for the now, rather than saving for the future.Invest: Deal with the world you're given.Divest: And with the blessing of God for the poor, as "Blessed are the poor for theirs is the…See More
9th month 29, 2014
Forrest Curo replied to Clem Gerdelmann's discussion 'Fanaticism'
"But a shadow doesn't "am" at all; only you & I and other beings do that. If you think you need to prove you can see, just look! There ain't nuthin there except a place where you aren't seeing much light. (But unless…"
9th month 23, 2014
Forrest Curo commented on Clem Gerdelmann's blog post 'Liberation Lobotomy'
"I think what the initial Quaker movement recommended was more like: Let Christ show it to you; then you'll see what if anything you're called to do about it. Leaving out that initial step just leads to brain surgery in the dark."
9th month 22, 2014
Clem Gerdelmann posted a blog post

Liberation Lobotomy

Here at "Spirit and Truth" hospital we treat, in silence, everything from chronic racism to acute homophobia. We know, from experience, that just as depression is anger turned inward so also despair is oppression internalized.In here, dysfunction has become the norm; and every condition, from self-identifying to self-destruction, is alternately embraced and rebelled against. Cases of feminist-fever, white-makes-right syndrome, stinking thinking, and gender-role resentment walk in the door as…See More
9th month 22, 2014
James C Schultz replied to Clem Gerdelmann's discussion 'Fanaticism'
"thankfully Love doesn't need words.  Unfortunately that just proves how little love there is amongst us.:(  My daughter's favorite button when she was a teen simply said "HUG ME"."
9th month 21, 2014
Robben Wainer replied to Clem Gerdelmann's discussion 'Fanaticism'
"I feel the Quaker spirit is alive today, and agree that it is very real. Faith works has different means to an end for a lot of the paths of Quaker service. My first inner moments were by my safeguarding my home as a sanctuary and a refuge. My…"
9th month 21, 2014
Forrest Curo replied to Clem Gerdelmann's discussion 'Fanaticism'
"James, thanks! I think my point is that there is a Real, that it has true power and uses that power in true love and wisdom. I want more people to zero in on that and find it, not spend all their days circling in a swamp of indifference. Words…"
9th month 21, 2014

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I attend Chester Meeting and offer vocal ministry as well as attend to the lending library.
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The Case of Inclusive vs. Exclusive

Posted on 10th mo. 6, 2014 at 7:30am 0 Comments

Inc.: As "that of God" applies to all people, so the Court of Quaker Opinion supports the inclusive nature of Quakerism.

Exc.: Then why the designation "Society", which derives from the Latin "partner, or companion"?

Inc.: We are a collective, or corporate, body of seekers.

Exc.: Never having graduated from "University", which derives from the Latin "collective, or crowd".

Inc.: Then we should change from being seen as a company to broadening our reach as a…

Continue

The Case of Invest vs. Divest

Posted on 9th mo. 29, 2014 at 6:30am 1 Comment

Invest: Respecting the return on investment favored by the Court of Quaker Opinion, we put our money where our mouth is.

Divest: Helping the powerless to have a place at a politically-bankrupt table; the uneducated to get non-union wage jobs; and the disenfranchised to be assimilated into a culture of spending for the now, rather than saving for the future.

Invest: Deal with the world you're given.

Divest: And with the blessing of God for the poor, as "Blessed are the…

Continue

Liberation Lobotomy

Posted on 9th mo. 22, 2014 at 8:00am 1 Comment

Here at "Spirit and Truth" hospital we treat, in silence, everything from chronic racism to acute homophobia. We know, from experience, that just as depression is anger turned inward so also despair is oppression internalized.

In here, dysfunction has become the norm; and every condition, from self-identifying to self-destruction, is alternately embraced and rebelled against. Cases of feminist-fever, white-makes-right syndrome, stinking thinking, and gender-role resentment walk in…

Continue

The Case of Re-veil vs. Revelation

Posted on 9th mo. 15, 2014 at 7:30am 0 Comments

Re-veil: Honoring and guarding the mystery of religious experience for the Court of Quaker Opinion, we adhere to the "absolute perhaps".

Revelation: A mystery is something that can not be understood in full. We do not put the veil back on, but continue to draw it back from the face of compassion.

Re-veil: We are open to the possibility of continuing revelation.

Revelation: But mess-with, more than mesh-with, what has already been unveiled.

Re-veil: Like a Deposit…

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