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American Friends and White Collar Crime - the case of Amy Gottlieb
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Amy Gottlieb is "the associate regional director of the Northeast Region of American Friends Service Committee"Under this title she is mostly known for defending her husband Ravi Ragbir against…Continue
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"Eratta - Ana spurs = Anabaptists
Both instead of but in the next Sentence."
"I enjoyed this. Thankfully, we are not limited to the dynamic reflected here.
I do not see much of a difference between identification with, and being guided and informed by, outward ideas openly professed and ideas not specifically attached to a…"
Chaplain Stogumber posted a blog postRambling: Quaker or Anabaptist? A matter of class?
As I say sometimes, I am "not literal enough to be a Mennonite" and "not liberal enough to be a Quaker".I suppose that this is partly a matter of class consciousness. I have grown up in a small village where most men were industrial workers (with some additional farming) and even if I am lazy by nature I have internalized the small people work ethics.Now, Anabaptism is historically a religion of (and for) farmers and craftsmen. The good side of that: They have still some yeomen's insticts:…See More
Chaplain Stogumber replied to Chris Marcus's discussion 'Quakers featured in novels'""Moby Dick": I suppose that Quakers did own the whaling business, but were too refined to work on the ships, so Ahab, Bildad etc. are no Quakers.
James Michener: "Texas" gives a good and rather critical account of a young…"
Chaplain Stogumber replied to James C Schultz's discussion 'God's will or mine'"My personal experience is: to cling to the darkness. Darkness is real, it is always there for us. Light is, at first, a mere vague promise. If we patiently wander through our personal darkness, there will be some light at the end, and we will…"
Chaplain Stogumber replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Is Outreach a Class Issue? A Poverty Issue, Even?'Chaplain Stogumber replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Is Outreach a Class Issue? A Poverty Issue, Even?'Chaplain Stogumber replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Is Outreach a Class Issue? A Poverty Issue, Even?'"It is quite correct that early quakerdom was enthusiastic (more like popular pentecostalism), but then, early quakerdom was rather unspecific. It needed time to find its particular style in worship, like it needed time to find its particular…"
Chaplain Stogumber commented on Darrin S.'s blog post 'Even maligning white people and culture is white supremacy'"Darrin,
there are a few things which are objectively better than others. Which means that they are generally liked, even by non-whites, and that without much proselytizing, pressure or indoctrination.
That said, I support your case for cultural…"
Chaplain Stogumber commented on Darrin S.'s blog post 'A SHOCKING ALLEGATION'"Imho a "marketplace of ideas" does not imply that everyone has to market aggressively for everyone to buy just his own product.
Quakers could be completely at ease with selling a niche product to a minority of consumers.
The problem is not…"
Chaplain Stogumber replied to Forrest Curo's discussion 'Is Outreach a Class Issue? A Poverty Issue, Even?'"Quaker worship style is not for everyone. It's for the quiet, the introverted and in a way the more intelligent (them being more skeptical w.r.t. to emotional impulses).
That said, Quakers should at first concentrate on keeping their members,…"
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Rambling: Quaker or Anabaptist? A matter of class?
Posted on 1st mo. 13, 2018 at 8:42am 3 Comments 0 Likes
As I say sometimes, I am "not literal enough to be a Mennonite" and "not liberal enough to be a Quaker".
I suppose that this is partly a matter of class consciousness. I have grown up in a small village where most men were industrial workers (with some additional farming) and even if I am lazy by nature I have internalized the small people work ethics.
Now, Anabaptism is historically a religion of (and for) farmers and craftsmen. The good side of that: They have still some…
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